aaaand who vetted that particular quote from her speech?

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"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity", she said, a Pegler quote that also appeared in the book "Right From the Beginning" by Pat Buchanan.

She did not acknowledge Pegler by name, merely citing 'a writer'. The speech was written by Matthew Scully, a senior speech writer for George W. Bush.
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source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_Pegler

they couldn't have just stuck with the gipper or something? another old chestnut about 'the party of lincoln' instead? wow. hank hill would've been an improvement!

then they just refer to him as "a writer" in her speech?

well, its funny the left is playing the games they used to accuse the far right of playing.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
We’ve been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain’s running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.

* Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she increased funding and signed a bill that will triple per-pupil funding over three years for special needs students with high-cost requirements.

* She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

* She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

* Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

* Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Wow, in 8 years of governance she's racked up THREE ethical scandals? I'd hate to think about what she would do as Vice fucking President.



Damn straight MG. But I think your tally of only three ethics scandals will probably be an understatement soon enough.

Pat Buchanan called McCain "Bush on steroids" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCnjBrueji4) on the Jan 22nd edition of "Hardball". So the even scarier question is if Palin is "Cheney on steroids"?

It seems that the Cheney/Palin comparison is much bigger than some think, especially considering the "special conference call" with the biggest oil execs in the state, just leaked today:
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/palin_requests_talks_with_oil_executives


I love this line:
"Nothing goes ahead unless Exxon is happy with it."

^ Not that I expect it to change your mind, you're too biased against Democrats (still pissed off about James Buchanan, I suppose), but you could try reading the article, then complaining about any bias you discover.

Or you could just be a cheeky bastard.

Buchanan has seemed in the past like a more reasonable outsider that Repubs would do well to imitate, but this is the lowest I've ever seen him.

He was quite clearly outmatched on this one. His counter-accusation "What's your problem with strong women, buddy?" is absolutely groan-worthy.

>> ^bealsubub:
I respect any man who calls another a charlatan. Good show old bean!


rofl

Pat Buchanan needs to go hide under a personhole cover.

I think if being a woman in politics matters so much, the female candidates should go bottomless throughout the debates. The best vag wins!

Those cupcakes sure are sugary.

Wait a second.

Wasn't Pat Buchanan just three days ago talking about what a horrible mistake it was to nominate Palin? Yes, and on MSNBC, Joe in the morning.

Oh yeah, that was before he discovered she was a "Buchanan girl".

Oh puke. I can't wait til Maddow's show starts.

Brick List!!

What is the Brick List, you ask? People who need to get whapped upside the head with a nice old Virginia brick.

Pat Buchanan: You've just made the Brick List!!

Don't worry, Palin's speech just ensured that she will be relegated to the dust heap of history.

None of the most famous speeches in American history have been negative. They may have mentioned bad things or had a bleak tone, but they all have that feeling of optimism, that quintessential American optimism.

Palin's speech was completely made of sardonic smears on Obama, when she wasn't babbling on about her family (by the way, she was the first person to make her family a campaign issue).

This speech can only become infamous like the Culture War speech Buchanan gave in 1992. Remember who won that election?

Here's the e-mail being sent out to the MoveOn-a-nites:

"Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for "inexperience," here's who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people.

Huh?

Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:


She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience.1

Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2

She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3

Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4

She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5

She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6
How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7
This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family.

We also asked Alaska MoveOn members what the rest of us should know about their governor. The response was striking. Here's a sample:

She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK

She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska. —Christine B., Denali Park, AK

As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage, AK

Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK

She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. —Marina L., Juneau, AK

I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting "A Woman" in that position.—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK

So Governor Palin is a staunch anti-choice religious conservative. She's a global warming denier who shares John McCain's commitment to Big Oil. And she's dramatically inexperienced.

In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country.

In the next few days, many Americans will be wondering what McCain's vice-presidential choice means. Please pass this information along to your friends and family.

Thanks for all you do.

–Ilyse, Noah, Justin, Karin and the rest of the team

Sources:


1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=1

3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=2


4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=3

5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=4

6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=5

"Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=6

"Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=7

7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-7654869-irR0vsx&t=8"

Hell, it's about time Pat Buchanan came out of the closet.

In its own right this was a great speech by Obama, but let's compare the essence of it with McCain's ideas and policies. Let's compare the points you brought up with McCain's voting record, McCain's character traits, McCain's speech-writing abilities and delivery.
As far as I could see, Buchanan liked the speech because it was a great speech, and not because Obama supposedly isn't a progressive. If you have an issue with him not being as progressive as you would like, then that's a valid point to bring up and argue, but in the US election there are two defacto candidates and one of them is infinately less progressive than Obama is.

Well.. duh.. of course Buchanan liked it because Obama is not a progressive. Obama voted for Iraq, for multiple war supplementals, he voted for FISA and telecom immunity and Patriot steal-your-liberties.

Obama is also not a writer of his own speeches, hence the Deval Patrick kerfluffle when they had the same speech (same writer).

If Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party had not run for President, Gore would have ended up with more votes than Bush. So don't blame Nader.

You know who I blame? The MILLIONS of people who voted for Bush. Especially those who did it twice.

You know who else I blame? The idiot old fucks who accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan because the ballot was "too confusing." If it's too confusing, go home and sit on your hands, Grandma.

I also blame this entire ridiculous country for its elections that have no runoffs, even if the tally is split by one vote.

But I never blame Nader, because he doesn't deserve to be blamed.

>> ^chilaxe:
Whenever Nader complains about Bush, keep in mind without Nader, Gore would have easily beaten Bush. I think Nader needs to indicate he understands how wrong he was in order for his current predictions to be credible. Not even the Green party supports him anymore.