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Thank you TubeChop http://www.tubechop.com/watch/281686

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It's a contentious point for me, discussing the topic of objective vs subjective morality, but I believe the author of this video doesn't fully grasp the topic.

The presentation of "objective morality" in this video is more like moral absolutism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_absolutism

and while I'm linking to articles, this is worth looking at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_universalism (moral objectivism)

A system of morality can be objective, while not absolute. Boiling morality to these two options does a major disservice to any discussion of the topic.

It's a torus!

Ah, I just read your bio. A self described humanist!

You rock, my friend, you rock.

I don't know. I am all for legal abortions, women's choice, all that. I think you are ignoring that pro-lifers really do believe that abortion is murder. It's lizard brain, non-thinking, visceral response.

I personally think this topic is not resolvable.

What is stupid is to feel this away about abortion, but then stop all education on how to AVOID pregnancy. That is the place to hammer home on, I think. You don't like abortion? Sure, I can see that. So fund the hell out of birth control.

But we know, ultimately, that we are the rational ones, don't we?

In reply to this comment by braindonut:
'Cept for one major difference. I stopped being a demagogue in middle school.

I wasn't commenting on the viewpoint. I was commenting on the tactic.

We'll keep having this fight until both sides learn to have honest discussions and get down to the real issues and disagreements behind it all. If public discourse can attain a sliver of intellectual honesty, then we all have hope.

>> ^bareboards2:

Here's how controversies work -- this comment works for both sides of the issue.
This is why we will probably be fighting about this the rest of human history....
>> ^braindonut:
Shamefully disgusting.

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