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15 Comments
Of course it is. But I love stirring the pot.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Ugh. I think it's a lost cause.
Immature? Irrelevant? It took me several hard thinking minutes to come up that list. I believe the words you're looking for are: "Entertaining" and "Masterfully Crafted."
"For you to come back the way you did was entertaining and really masterfully crafted."
Oooh, that's better.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
>> @KOMMIE: All those generalizations listed are about porn, not necessarily about men. Two of them are solely about women. For you to come back the way you did was immature and really irrelevant.
Actually, I'm glad you replied. Things can get awfully divisive around here on certain topics. I think that there's always going to be trouble when someone tries to claim absolutes. I fundamentally agree with you, I'm not anti- or pro- porn, it's a complex issue, as complex as sexuality itself. The claim could be made that fantasizing and masturbation would have the same damaging effects without any porn at all. I worry that a lot of ThePinky's statements are rooted in her need to project her morality and beliefs on others, and that's not-so-good.
I want to make sure that you still feel welcome, that the whole community isn't out to get you guys. I value your viewpoints, even If I don't completely agree, and enjoy the critical thought that the other members put forth in response. I don't think anyone got outright nasty (except for me, in response to the "deluded minds" comment) and I'm proud of us for keeping a respectful tone. Quantummushroom said it once, that this place would be very dull without dissenting opinion.
So thanks.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
In reply to this comment by schmawy:
Don't despair, LittleRed. It's a helluva fight you and thePinky picked to have on the internet. And please don't take any of it personally. You both have my utmost respect for even trying.
I know, and it's certainly not a fight I would've chosen to have, but at the same time, I have to stand up for what I believe in - especially when it's one girl against the entire website, other women included.
She and I have slightly different views on why, and in what situations it's bad. I see where she's going with the "porn leads to sexual abuse," but I don't necessarily agree. I don't doubt that the two are related, because you won't ever hear of a rapist who doesn't (or hasn't) watched porn. At the same time, I think it is more destructive to relationships than it is to guys who have a chemical imbalance and are prone to immoral acts in the first place.
I am a Passion Parties consultant, and have been since I was 18. I have had women come to me - a sorority sister even, just 21, that are dating men who are completely incapable of climax with a woman. In her case, he is in his late 20s / early 30s, had only had sex twice (not two partners, just twice) before her. He blames the problem on his raging porn habit. Can that hurt a relationship? Absolutely. She feels she's not good enough, and though he promised to quell his addiction several months ago, the results haven't changed.
Even something less extreme - porn in a long-distance relationship. The one situation in a relationship where porn is most acceptable. I think I make my stance on porn fairly clear, so I shared some of the professional photos of a scandalous nature I had done, as well as allowed photos to be taken. The thought was that I'd rather have him looking at me than at other women. I have been able to tell a difference in our sex life as time progresses, to the point that I asked him to remove all the pictures he had.
I guess to sum it all up, I'm not completely anti-porn. However, research and experience tell me porn is nothing but trouble for relationships, especially if the couple is living together.
I don't think that's too much to ask, but I haven't felt that my view really fits in to this most recent thread, and I never felt the need to share in the previous ones. So - sorry that you probably didn't expect a reply, but I really had to get it out there.
Don't despair, LittleRed. It's a helluva fight you and thePinky picked to have on the internet. And please don't take any of it personally. You both have my utmost respect for even trying.
cc Pinky.
Thanks for the heads up. Fixed w/ a new embed code. F Universal!
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Hmmm. Not working for me.
Thanks for the note, fixed now.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Onion-Movie-Melissa-Cherry-Interview
It's dead.
thepinky said
>> ^thepinky:
This is soft porn. Can somebody please do something about this? I come to videosift so that I don't have to deal with this type of disgusting objectification of women. Come on, guys.
And LadyDeath, WTF?!
Calling it softporn, she wanted it removed. she turned the comments into a debate about whether or not it was porn being poste
A debate, sure if its a hot topic - but on the video itself asking the clip be pulled and calling out WTF to the poster, thats just bullshit.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Yeah, it is getting out of hand. And if you actually read, thepinky is not calling out your girlfriend. She's just saying she finds it offensive and wishes it wouldn't be there. If it was an attack as you claim, you wouldn't be the only one that said something along those lines. This is a debate over whether it is objectifying women, not whether it should've been posted.
As far as your girlfriend goes, that was the lowest possible blow she could've dealt. You and she may not care, but because of that, she will never have my respect, and I'm sure several people here agree.
In reply to this comment by Zonbie:
>> ^direpickle:
^LadyDeath:
Wow, that was really uncalled for.
This is getting outta hand
ThePinky - stop singling out LadyDeath for posting Burlesque - its not porn. I am getting sick of people objecting to art because its offensive. It's NSFW because some may find it inappropriate - erotica has existed for centuries - if you find it offensive then don't watch but singling out one user for posting it is not right.
Videosift is not policing its content because that would daage the sift, but individuals can block content if they wish.
Also, it's insulting to Dita to say she is being exploited; its her art and profession.
You could argue she exploits the carnal instincts of her audience - but thats a different story.
Whatever Who are you to call me bitch??? oh Kids...
First of all this is NOT your business,so go and do your stuff and leave me the fuck alone...
like I said I dont post videos that you guys have to like..I dont owe no body an apology,so stop being so disrespectful or might have to talk to lucky about this,this is not a kinder garden...god Im tired of ignorants in this sift...
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Either you're blind, or you're a bitch. I'd like to think it's the former. Either way, you owe ThePinky an apology. That was absolutely uncalled for and the most childish, immature, appalling thing I've ever seen on here.
In reply to this comment by LadyDeath:
>> ^thepinky:
PLEASE DON'T QUOTE THIS SO THAT IF I HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT POSTING PERSONAL THINGS I CAN DELETE IT!!!
God You dont have to discuss your private life in here for "Simple Art Video"
This is Getting so Dramatic Again and Again...
I love you SO much right now.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Oh lord thank you. I'm tired of being one of "those" women that think the stripper videos and the less-than-mediocre "burlesque" videos are unacceptable.
In reply to this comment by thepinky:
This is soft porn. Can somebody please do something about this? I come to videosift so that I don't have to deal with this type of disgusting objectification of women. Come on, guys.
And LadyDeath, WTF?!
I've switched the embed to a YouTube version, not sure what happened with the original... Thanks for the note.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
The embed's not working for me, and neither is the link. "404 not found" when you go to their site.
fixed, thanks for the heads up
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Dead.
I think it's gonna stay that way I can't find the replacement. Thanks for the notice.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
Dead.
Luckily, you can see the Swiss countryside from the alps only a few miles from Innsbruck (at least, that's what my friend told me I was looking at). Enjoy. If you make it there, head down into the Zillertal Valley. The scenery and people are incredible. Every family there really does make their own schnapps.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
If the Swiss were kicked out of Switzerland and the Austrians moved in, I'd probably live right outside Luzern. But since that's highly unlikely and the Swiss are generally unpleasant, Austria sounded like the next best choice. Innsbruck has that dense small-town feel to it. I just felt at home there.
Innsbruck? My cousin's family is from Mayrhofen. I spent some time there a few years ago--passed through Innsbruck proper a few times. Great country. Why do you want to go there?
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
My name is Brianna. The screen name was prompted by my short stature and red hair.
I am a reformed sorority alcoholic. (Moved out and dropped back down to a size 2.) I'm 19 years old and a senior in college, but I haven't stayed anywhere long enough to be remotely close to graduating. Born in Escondido, CA, my parents decided to relocate the family to the frozen north when I was two. I've been in Anchorage ever since, with the exception of a few college stints "Outside."
I started my college career at 16 with majors in Electrical Engineering and Music History, with minors in Dance, Math, and German. I was feeling ambitious. Now I'm a Bioengineering major, with minors in Math and German.
My dream job is to practice medicine in Innsbruck, Austria.
I'm moving to Tempe in August to attend school. If anyone has any ideas on how to finance an education in that area without having a job, suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the note, I've found another source and it's working again.
In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
*dead again.
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