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I have no idea who is behind this video, but its pretty damn interesting. I have a feeling I am not the first to post this, and that there is another one floating around with many more views than this particular YT vid. So I guess I will find out. Sorry if that is so. I THINK it may be Niall Ferguson. Can anyone confirm?

Via YT:

Terrorist names List:

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands
Queen Sofía of Spain
Prins Filip Belgian Prince
Étienne Davignon, Belgium
Josef Ackermann, Germany
Keith B. Alexander, Director of the NSA, USA
Roger Altman, USA
Takis Arapoglou, National Bank of Greece, Greece
Ali Babacan, Turkey
Balsemão, Francisco Pinto, Portugal
Nicolas Baverez, France
Franco Bernabè, Italy
Xavier Bertrand. France
Bildt, Carl, Sweden
Jan Björklund, Minister for Education, Sweden
Christoph Blocher, Switzerland
Alexandre Bompard, France, (europe 1 ( french radio ))
Ana Botín (President of Santander Bank Group Emilio Botín´s daughter), Spain.
Henri de Castries, AXA, France
Juan Luis Cebrián, (PRISA Group of Media, CEO), Spain.
W. Edmund Clark, TD Bank Financial Group, Canada
Kenneth Clark, ΤD Βank Financial Group, Great Britain
Luc Coene, National Bank of Belgium, Belgium
Richard Dearlove, ex head MI6, Great Britain
Mario Draghi, Βanca d΄Ιtalia, Italy
Eldrup, Anders, Denmark
Elkann, John, Fiat SPA, Italy
Enders Thomas, CEO Airbus, Germany
José (Manuel) Entrecanales (Acciona Group, Construction and infrastructures), Spain.
Isidro Fainé Casas (President of Caixa "Bank" and SEAT Adviser), Spain.
Niall Ferguson, Harvard Business School, USA
Timothy Geithner, USA, Secretary of the Treasury]
Dermot Gleeson, Ireland
Donald E. Graham Washington Ρost Company
Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics, Leiden University, Netherlands
Ernst Hirsch Ballin, Netherlands
Richard Holbrooke, USA
Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, NATO Secretary General, Netherlands
James L. Jones, National Security Advisor, USA
Vernon Jordan, USA
Robert Kagan, USA
Jyrki Katainen, Minister of Finance, Finland
John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard, Great Britain
Mustafa Koç, Turkey
Roland Koch, Germany
Sami Cohen, Journalist, Turkey
Henry Kravis, USA
Marie-Josée Kravis, USA
Neelie Kroes, European Commissioner for Competition. Netherlands
Odysseas Kyriakopoulos, S&B Group, Greece
Manuela Ferreira Leite, Portugal
Bernardino León, Spain
Jessica Mathews, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA
Philippe Maystadt, European Investment Bank, Belgium
Frank McKenna, ΤD Βank Financial Group, Canada
John Micklethwait, The Economist, Great Britain
Thierry de Montbrial, Institut français des relations internationales (IFRI), France
Mario Monti, Bocconi University, Milan, Italy
Miguel Ángel Moratinos, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Spain
Craig Mundie, Microsoft, USA
Egil Myklebust, SAS Group, Norway
Matthias Nass, Die Zeit, Germany
Denis Oliven, Le Νouvel Οbservateur, France
Frederic Oudea, Societe Generale, France
Cem Özdemir, Alliance '90/The Greens, Germany
Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, Italy
Papalexopoulos, Dimitris, CEO, Titan Cement Co. S.A., Greece
Richard Perle, Αmerican Εnterprise Ιnstitute, USA
David Petraeus, Commander, U.S. Central Command, USA
Manuel Pinho, Minister of Economy and Innovation, Portugal
Robert Prichard, Τorstar Corporation, Canada
Romano Prodi, ex Prime Minister, Italy
Heather Reisman, Ιndigo Βooks & Μusic Ιnc., Canada
Eivind Reiten, Norway (Chairman BD Norske Skog, former CEO Norsk Hydro)
Michael Ringier, Czech Republic
David Rockefeller, USA
Dennis Ross, USA]
Barnett Rubin, USA
Alberto Ruiz-Gallardón ?, Mayor of Madrid, Spain
Suzan Sabancı Dinçer, Turkey
Indira Samarasekera, President of the University of Alberta, Canada
Rudolf Scholten, Social Democratic Party, Austria
Jürgen Steb, Germany
Pedro Solbes, Spain
Sampatzi Saraz, Turkey (banker)
Sanata Seketa, Canada (University of Canada)
Lawrence Summers, USA
Peter Sutherland, Ireland
Martin Taylor, Barclays Bank, Great Britain
Peter Thiel, USA
Agan Ourgkout, Turkey
Matti Vanhanen, Prime Minister, Finland
Daniel Vasella, Novartis AG, Switzerland
Jeroen van der Veer, CEO Royal Dutch Shell, Netherlands
Guy Verhofstadt, ex Prime Minister, Belgium
Paul Volcker, USA
Jacob Wallenberg, Sweden
Marcus Wallenberg, Sweden
Nout Wellink, the Netherlands
Vissers Hans, Netherlands
Martin Wolf, Financial Τimes, Great Britain
James Wolfensohn, USA
Paul Wolfowitz, USA
Fareed Zakaria, USA - Newsweek
Robert Zoellick, World Bank, USA
Dora Bakoyannis, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Greece
Anna Diamantopoulou, Greece
Yannis Papathanasiou, Minister for Economy and Finance, Greece
Georgios Alogoskoufis, Greece,
George David, Coca-Cola 3E, Greece
NordlichReitersays...

griefer_queafer, I've been around the sift for a long time, I would have remembered a video like this. Just read my comment history you may find that at one point I was prone to believing outlandish conspiracies.

But the one in this video I can believe.

My question is this, if the Government uses force to get what they want (police, military, etc) how are the people to effectively air their grievances? Oh wait, who is that I hear? Carlin? What did you say?


griefer_queafersays...

I hear ya, NR. But I recently commented on a Carlin video, and this generally gets to my problem with Carlin, though I do like him. I feel that Carlin often falls victim to a bleak outlook that tends to incapacitate any conversation about HOW WE ARE TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST TYRANNY.

Let's take a little recent example. As it stands, there is no such thing in this society as the RIGHT to healthcare. And yet, part of what the Obama administration is trying to do is give us that right. Can you not
imagine an America without that right?

I get what Carlin and you are saying. It reminds me of the philosopher Giorgio Agamben, who talks about the reality of internment camps in the same way. His thinking goes somethign like this (in "homo sacer"): if a state can issue a 'state of emergency' at any one time, then we never have any REAL rights, since they are always subject to being stripped from us. And Agamben (and Foucault) were saying this WELL before Carlin was.

BUT... the problem with this thinking, in my opinion, is that it can tend to a kind of quietist attitude: a way of FORGETTING the more LOCAL struggles that, in fact, DO have solutions. Just because rights are historically TEMPORARY, one might argue, does not make them any more important to seek out.

Anyway, that is my thinking on this (for the moment). interested to hear what you think.

>> ^NordlichReiter:

griefer_queafer, I've been around the sift for a long time, I would have remembered a video like this. Just read my comment history you may find that at one point I was prone to believing outlandish conspiracies.
But the one in this video I can believe.
My question is this, if the Government uses force to get what they want (police, military, etc) how are the people to effectively air their grievances? Oh wait, who is that I hear? Carlin? What did you say?


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