'Proof' that god exists

Brief 'proof' that god must exist.
Apparently, he's cornered the atheists.
KnivesOutsays...

His logic wasn't too bad until the assumption that apparently "miraculous" patterns could only form due to vast, supreme intelligence. I guess if you believe that there were only 6000 years for the patterns to form, then you have to conclude that something was pushing things around. Billions of years, however, leaves more room for coincidence, selection, mutation.

The supremely annoying thing is that he's discussing this like he's the first to ever consider it, and he's educating the masses.

Thanks for dropping some "science" on me, random Youtube wanker!

Bhruicsays...

This fails on so many levels. It demonstrates a lack of understanding of the concept of "infinite", to begin with. That one cannot tell when an infinite amount of time has "passed" is simply in keeping with the definition of infinite, that is, an unmeasurable quantity. It'd be the same as me saying that I'll give you a cookie after you've counted to infinity - obviously you can't do so. But that in no way invalidates the concept of infinity.

Even accepting, however, the original premise, it further breaks down when talking about creation. If you postulate that there is no such thing as infinite time, then "God" also had to come into existence at some point. Either that, or you have to believe that "God" is infinite - and you just spent all that time proving that there's no such thing as infinite. And that just begs the question of who or what supposedly created "God"? And that just leads to an infinite regression (funny how often infinite comes up) of who/what created who/what created "God", ad nauseum.

And finally, even if one were willing to concede that there was some "awesomely powerful, awesomely intelligent" entity that created the universe, the idea that that entity corresponds with your definition of what "God" is hasn't been proven in the slightest. Considering how many varied "Gods" that man has invented over the years, the idea that you somehow have the "right" one, and everyone that doesn't believe in the same deity has the "wrong" one is simply extreme arrogance - and definitely not "proven".

rougysays...

He rubs me wrong.

There was no proof there, just assumptions.

If God existed before there was time and space, then what made God?

Whatever this is, this world of our, this universe, it's much more vast and complicated than anything we can imagine.

And to think that an entity greater than the universe itself would actually care one way or the other what we believed is simple arrogance, and to insist on forcing that point of view on everybody you know is...perplexing to say the least.

videosiftbannedmesays...

His attempts at introducing logic into an argument to prove the existence of god fails at such an apocalyptic level, I'm starting to question my own beliefs. Because NOBODY can fuck up that bad without a little divine intervention.

If he had just used that as his basis for argument, I would have been sold.

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