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MrFisk*controversy
siftbotAdding video to channels (Controversy) - requested by MrFisk.
hatsixThere are two definitions of 'majority'... Maddow is using a technical definition, which means that more than 50% of a population. The 'common' definition simply means "the greater part or number" (technically, a plurality: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/majority )
To everyone but statisticians and poli-sci, if someone says "a majority of people are X", and it turns out that the ratio is 40% X to 30% Y, they will say that is true. Everyone else will say (pedantically pushing their glasses up) "I believe you meant to say "plurality".
I like Maddow, I've liked her other sections on this, but it feels like she's going out of her way to attack Politifact.
NetRunner@hastix you've got a point, but I think the problem is that if you look at their recent track record, there's a clear double standard.
Obama says something completely, unambiguously true, and they call it half-true because they think he was implying something that, in their opinion, isn't true.
A Republican says something that's not factually true, no matter how you slice the numbers, and they rate it "mostly true" because if you substitute the incorrect word he used with the factually accurate word he should have used, it wouldn't (in their opinion) undermine the opinion he was expressing.
Essentially they've gotten into this weird sort of state where they've stopped rating things based on factual accuracy, and have instead started trying to play referee on whether the arguments of the right or the left are correct in their opinion. Problem is, they're still issuing true/false ratings on specific quoted statements, rather than saying "we agree with the right/left on this one."
Here's the original PolitiFact article on this. The first two paragraphs read:
But then when they actually go looking for evidence to support Rubio, they find the evidence "liberals may want" to have:
Oh, so you mean liberals who argue that Rubio is wrong, and that he doesn't speak for a majority of Americans have the facts on their side?
But you still rated that factually incorrect statement "mostly true"? Why?
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