it's funny because he can attempt to use the excuse about republicans blocking him on many of the things that require law changes, but there's no excuse for this other than "the companies bought me out".

and we don't learn.

The next election campaign we'll still be picking sides and judging their election promises as we always have done, in the vain hope that any of it means a damn thing.

Like I said over on the other vid I posted on this, I understand Obama's reluctance.

If he gets involved, it elevates Walker, hardens Walker's resolve to fight to the death, and potentially shifts the political dynamic from "Walker's fucking over school teachers" to "Walker's standing up to President Obama".

I say that the sheer imagery of Obama walking amongst the protesters with a sign would overwhelm everything else, especially if he camps out with the protesters in the WI statehouse overnight.

Not sure how the Secret Service would feel about something like that, but surely that's a solvable problem.

>> ^NetRunner:

Like I said over on the other vid I posted on this, I understand Obama's reluctance.
If he gets involved, it elevates Walker, hardens Walker's resolve to fight to the death, and potentially shifts the political dynamic from "Walker's fucking over school teachers" to "Walker's standing up to President Obama".
I say that the sheer imagery of Obama walking amongst the protesters with a sign would overwhelm everything else, especially if he camps out with the protesters in the WI statehouse overnight.
Not sure how the Secret Service would feel about something like that, but surely that's a solvable problem.


It's not restricted to only one state though, so if he gets his "comfortable pair of shoes" on and visits the multiple states where this is or is going to be an issue, he won't give Walker any firepower.

Regardless, he's not avoiding it for the reason you mention, he's doing it because he's on Walker's side... He's a shill.

I noticed this video was from firedoglake. I used to support them back when I thought they were for gay rights. Then they started showing their bipartisan colors, so I left. They sent me an email and asked why I was unsubscribing. I told them not everyone that supports same sex marriage is a Democrat.

I think they probably sat around their computer for a day, scratching their heads, assuming I was a Republican (you can only be one or the other in America, right?), and then wondering what kind of "Republican" supports gay rights.

Or they could've just deleted it and moved on with their lives. That's probably more accurate.

P.S. I'm not a Republican

>> ^ghark:

It's not restricted to only one state though, so if he gets his "comfortable pair of shoes" on and visits the multiple states where this is or is going to be an issue, he won't give Walker any firepower.

I agree, I'd like to see him take a tour of all the states where this is going on, and join the protests for a little while in each state. Wisconsin would be the first/biggest stop though, since that's been the state that's gotten most of the attention.

>> ^ghark:
Regardless, he's not avoiding it for the reason you mention, he's doing it because he's on Walker's side... He's a shill.


Possibly, but I think that requires an unbelievable level of faith in the idea that all politicians in both parties are totally committed to secretly working together against the public's interests. I still think it's a mix of ideological convictions and self-serving interests that's driving most politicians' decisions.

Unions are still top dollar donors to the Democratic party, and Obama's going to have to start his re-election campaign before too much longer, so it's in his self-interest to keep them from being destroyed. Based on everything Obama's ever said, he wants to be an uber-moderate that bridges the ideological divides, and removing collective bargaining rights from unions is an extremely ideological and divisive move.

In short, I don't think he's on Walker's side, I just think he's chicken.