I basically agree with KO.

It's too little, too late.

There is little correlation between what Obama says and what Obama does.

>> ^rougy:

There is little correlation between what Obama says and what Obama does.


It's not even that, so much as what Candidate Obama said pre-2008 vs. what President Obama says now.

That's what's grating on me at this point. I expected him to be merely center-left in policy, but I figured he'd at least make an eloquent case for progressive ideals on a regular basis.

Instead, he seems to want to avoid any and all political or ideological confrontation.

We don't need unity, we need for the left to beat the right so thoroughly they can't win an election for dog-catcher until they tilt way back to the left themselves.

I watched the whole thing. i mean the obama speech yesterday.

funny one of the major problems i had with the speech, and was that he mentioned green energy, but did'nt give specifics.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^rougy:
There is little correlation between what Obama says and what Obama does.

It's not even that, so much as what Candidate Obama said pre-2008 vs. what President Obama says now.
That's what's grating on me at this point. I expected him to be merely center-left in policy, but I figured he'd at least make an eloquent case for progressive ideals on a regular basis.
Instead, he seems to want to avoid any and all political or ideological confrontation.
We don't need unity, we need for the left to beat the right so thoroughly they can't win an election for dog-catcher until they tilt way back to the left themselves.


You mean campaign promises, and actually keeping them?

Huh, seems like we've been down that road. The big ones for me are Extraordinary Rendition, and Habeus Corpus. Demoralized Idealist. Same shit, different day. The people need to educate themselves about what really matters, false wars, bailouts, Military Industrial Complex, Militarization of the Police, Prohibition, Equal Rights for all types of sexuality, and lastly this idea that Transparency is good in speeches but in practice it's a dangerous thing.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
The people need to educate themselves about what really matters,

Yep.