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rougysays...If you want to see the real difference between the American right and left, get some guy to go to a republican rally and try to pull the same stunt. Just try to tell them to do anything, point out any shortcoming and demand that they change it right then and there.
They'd bounce you out of the place on your ass and probably kick you a few times in the process.
This guy, when simply confronted, he acts like he's being victimized, as if it were a law or an insult not to recite the pledge before the meeting.
“I'm sick of them disrespecting our flag! My dad fought in World War Two! This is a free country!” Then he proceeds to stonewall and refuse to tell anybody who he is or what press outlet he works for.
These people are scary. Modern-day brownshirts, all of them.
That is Shock-Troop Fascism 101.
Fascism (n): A system of government that promotes extreme nationalism....
NetRunnersays...*politics
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Lurchsays...Or you could notice that people like this exist in all parts of the political spectrum. Guaranteed if this guy stood there and heckled steadily instead of just pushing for the pledge they would have removed him as well. You're looking at everything from such a polarized political lens. Democrats great, Republicans evil. Anyone that doesn't agree with me must be attacked and labeled as demonic. Is this guy a douche? Yes, he is. It is quite a huge jump to say that this guy is a brown shirt fascist. Besides, do we always have to resort to Nazi comparisons for the most innocuous things?
Here's a few quick examples for you of hecklers being ejected at events by Democrats. It isn't just Republicans who throw out screaming idiots with signs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T8Ihefv58w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zVTxAY4nP0
http://www.videosift.com/video/UF-Student-tasered-at-John-Kerry-Speech
NetRunnersays...^ The big deal with this particular video is that the heckler was a member of the press. Note the press pass, and the people asking "what media outlet are you from?"
Also, it's worth noting that people from your universe of thought think Barack can't or won't say the pledge of allegiance -- here he is leading the crowd in doing it.
I don't think the point with this video, and the others is to say that no one in the Democratic party ejects hecklers, and I bet Obama's ejected a few too, I think the main point is that sometimes he just deals with them, and gets them to settle down with conversation.
If there are videos of McCain doing the same, please post them.
From what I've seen, they're weeding out anyone who's a potential heckler at the door, so as to prevent scenes like this one. That's what was actually happening in this video; she didn't even get into the same room as McCain, much less heckle him while he was speaking. The handful of videos I've seen where he's getting heckled, he just stops, the police/secret service move in, and as they're being forcibly removed he makes a crack about how crazy they must've been.
Lurchsays...My comment was directed at rougy's assumptions that hecklers are only ejected by Republicans, not that the video tried to make that point. I'm not defending the guy in this video. It is nice that Obama attempts to talk to some of his hecklers, but really... who cares. If you are a big enough ass to scream at someone while they are giving a speech, I don't think you deserve to be responded to. There are other ways to address your concerns that are more mature.
Also, the video you posted of "weeding out" potential hecklers does not strike me as anything out of the ordinary. They rented a space for the meeting, told people not to enter the building with signs, and the lady did it anyway. She would have been perfectly fine if she stayed on public property with her sign. It is no different than Obama's campaign "weeding out" the Muslim woman from being able to sit behind the podium at his speech in Detroit. At the end of an Obama video that you yourself posted, a heckler has his sign taken away while Obama responds to him.
Since you referred to my "universe of thought" which I think you have pegged incorrectly, I don't like either candidate. They are both status quo. McCain is not a conservative in the traditional sense of small government, and anything he does now is pandering for the Republican votes he knows he won't get. Obama is going to win the election with hollow promises of an undefined change through white guilt votes and appealing to people's stupidity. His policy ideas, as well as McCain's, sound terrible to me. Both candidates are liars and affiliated with suspicous people. Both candidates constantly double talk and make statements inconsistant with their voting records. There are no McCain defenders here, so his screw-ups are all over the place. Any information that tarnishes the Obamessiah is attacked as lies by his blind supporters. With the characters Obama befriends, he would never even be able to acquire a rudimentary security clearance if he were an average citizen applying for federal employment. Both candidates are a shit sandwich. This election I'm either writing someone in or reluctantly voting for the quasi-Libertarian Bob Barr.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html
siftbotsays...Moving this video to aspartam's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
vairetubesays...Here is the continuation of the confrontation::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypyhpAkmaic
"John Quinn, registered Republican, and Berea Obama heckler, tries to flee the event without identifying himself, assaults me, and as a result ends up being interrogated by Secret Service. "
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