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Democracy Now! - Obama Makes "False" NSA Surveillance Claims

submitted by Warren E. Hale

(MrFisk)
1 decade 1 year 5 months 1 week ago

"Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who broke the NSA surveillance story earlier this month, joins us one day after both President Obama and whistleblower Edward Snowden gave extensive interviews on the surveillance programs Snowden exposed and Obama is now forced to defend. Speaking to PBS, Obama distinguished his surveillance efforts from those of the Bush administration and reaffirmed his insistence that no Americans’ phone calls or emails are being directly monitored without court orders. Greenwald calls Obama’s statements "outright false" for omitting the warrantless spying on phone calls between Americans and callers outside the United States. "It is true that the NSA can’t deliberately target U.S. citizens for [warrantless] surveillance, but it is also the case they are frequently engaged in surveillance of exactly that kind of invasive technique involving U.S. persons," Greenwald says. After moderating Snowden’s online Q&A with Guardian readers, Greenwald says of the whistleblower: 'I think what you see here is a person who was very disturbed by this massive surveillance apparatus built in the U.S. that spies not only on American citizens, but the world, with very little checks, very little oversight. He’s making clear his intention was to inform citizens even at the expense of his own liberty or even life.'" - Democracy Now!

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/18/glenn_greenwald_as_obama_makes_false

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Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by silvercord.

That's some funky elevator music they've got right there...

Edit: Also, regarding the laws that are put in place to prevent abuse of all the (meta-)data they collected: even if there was a properly functioning oversight -- and there isn't --, it would still be abused, extensively. Why? There are no (serious) repercussions to be feared.
Unless there's jail time looming on the horizon for the entire chain of command involved in the abuse in question, it'll be shrugged off. Hard time for the people who typed in the queries, for the people who gave the order, for the people who looked the other way.

key words "IF you are a US person" which basically means all the meta data they are collecting on NON Americans is open game...

LMAO This is too funny, I hope they have some serious alarms that go off whenever data is accessed. It only takes one disgruntled contractor to go and dump a bunch of data... (Oh I forgot, it's "against" the rules and laws so obviously it couldn't ever happen)

Anybody who wants to change the law has criminal intent until the law is changed.

Have to double post.. If a US citizen communicates with another US citizen thru a server that resides, let's say France, NSA is fully qualified to read your mails up to the ambiguous point where both parties can be confirmed at 100% certainty to be US citizens. That means literally analyzing the conversation, identifying the participants, checking their status...

In reality, they gather everything up, use algorithms to determine whats "cool" and whats not. By NSAs own accounts the certainty of it's identifying this is somewhere around 51%, just above flipping a coin.

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