I'd love to see the South secede from the Union. I'm sure it wouldn't be long before their roads were unpaved and they were in a war with Mexico. Their low wages and corrupt politicians might do well in the current world economy.

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>> ^vaporlock:

I'd love to see the South secede from the Union. I'm sure it wouldn't be long before their roads were unpaved and they were in a war with Mexico. Their low wages and corrupt politicians might do well in the current world economy.


I think my main curiosity about such a hypothetical is how close to reinstating slavery they'd get.

Mostly though, I wish people would recognize that secession would be massively ugly for everyone.

I can't imagine, even with the overt racism of the south, that they would go back to slavery (even rhetorically). However, I think that serfdom and open racism would definitely be part of their Southern moral "philosophy".

I don't think they could survive without the North and West's tax money, so it probably would never happen. Not to mention the North's response would probably be along the line of the response towards the 'Branch Davidians'.>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^vaporlock:
I'd love to see the South secede from the Union. I'm sure it wouldn't be long before their roads were unpaved and they were in a war with Mexico. Their low wages and corrupt politicians might do well in the current world economy.

I think my main curiosity about such a hypothetical is how close to reinstating slavery they'd get.
Mostly though, I wish people would recognize that secession would be massively ugly for everyone.

>> ^vaporlock:

I can't imagine, even with the overt racism of the south, that they would go back to slavery (even rhetorically). However, I think that serfdom and open racism would definitely be part of their Southern moral "philosophy".

Well, that's what I was thinking when I wondered how close they'd get. I think they'd be perfectly cool with creating a legally defined serf class that on paper would be assigned to people for reasons that are purely economic (e.g. a replacement for bankruptcy, or a possible criminal punishment for defaulting on debt), but in practice would overwhelmingly be applied to non-whites due to discrimination and existing wealth and income disparity left over from the (First?) Civil War.

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