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6 Comments
Farhad2000says...I don't get why people don't check this out...
marinarasays...This idea of Moyers of a unified, transcendent faith smacks of world religion.
Farhad2000, are you really a progressive? Do you really want more welfare, more free education, more government control of health care?
It creeps me out, man! Like lord of the rings.... One government to rule them all...
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A little about Moyers' Organization:
Farhad2000says...No am not a progressive, I don't believe we should be entirely laissez-faire with regards to our economy and people, nor do I believe that social assistance programs that were part of American way of life since the New Deal should be annexed. You can't have a totally capitalist society nor a totally socialist society in the US, it wouldn't work.
I didn't post this video to give support to Mr Moyer's organization or anything like that, I believe that what he says encapsulates everything I feel is wrong about the current political climate, we have a conservative base that is quickly losing it's ground by having a simple vast hate of the left but no real plan of action other then war war and more war. We have a democratic left side that is too willingly to wait till 2008 and then come into office like some sort of messiah of hope. All while more troops are sent into Iraq and Afghanistan...
Democracy is built on mutual discourse and exchange of ideas, policy action should come from the same area. I believe it's important for citizens to know all viewpoints offered to let people reach their own conclusions. Simply painting someone as a crazy liberal by quoting DiscoverTheNetworks, well that doesn't really help anything especially since they have a anti-left stance. I could bring something from MoveOn.org about their practices.
And I think that progressive statement you made is funny. I would rather have all that then have a goverment that feels that it can trample over the constitution in order to implement policies to watch it's own citizens and or remove attorney generals based on their political affiliations...
NordlichReitersays...This variant of a quote stated in the art of war, buy person who wrote a letter, that was comprised into the art of war (His name escapes me, and i dont have the book handy, i think it was a Lu something.): Even though ones country is large and prosperous said country should not go around pounding down on countries that are less prosperous. (I dont have the book on hand so i cant make a direct quote.)
Every one in the world was down to go and get Taliban, and the Al queda, there was plenty of intel on that subject, and we had a majority backing on action, and allies in country. But when the decision was made to attack Iraq on the basis of bad intelligence, with out proper backing by a majority of the nations, that is the direct opposite of the above quote from the art of war.
At the moment any plan for 2008 or now is better than sending more American people to die, and our military is already stretched way to thin as it is. The US government cant even afford to equip our soldiers with Vietnam era flak jackets, in the state of Carolina the governor there raised money though some loop holes to get armor and radios, and all things that one would need in a battle field, because the governer would not equip the National guard out of Basic training. Now you say that the national guard is a state militia, true. But a soldier on active duty that was sent from his state, to a foreign soil is no longer guarding that state, he becomes active duty and is no longer a state militant.
This whole statement boils down to a rule that all governemts should follow, if you dont have any money to fight a war, you had better make damned sure that the war that you are going to have is well worth it, because it can be the end of your country. Rome fell because it was to big, and had many enemies made through conquest, the US is making enemies by shunning world opinion on these foolish wars. Its foolish that people still support this war, as it is turning into another Vietnam.
I could go on and on about this, but ill reaffirm a latter statement: Any group of politicians with a plan to stop the use of military in stupid situations is better than the group we have here now.
quantumushroomsays...Socialist twaddle from a drive-by media mogul. What did that pasty climate robot say once, "Much ado about not much new."
Traconsays...Your thinking of Sun Tzu "The Art of War" It was poetry not letters. It doesn't really work in English though.
I have to agree with farhad2000. The bomb throwing from both sides is drowning out every reasonable idea, thought and there potential.
Marinara No matter your views I guarantee you violate your own morality and personal ethics on a daily basis. If you purchase anything from China you are helping them pay for abortions (not always by choice mind you) or pay for the bullets that cut down 12 defenceless civilians in the hills in Tibet. The fund you speak of uses there stock to get onto boards and shareholders meetings to voice there concern and ask for change. 1000 men yelling at a building and holding signs does nothing but 1 man in a shareholders meeting can demand answers and look for solutions.
No one is perfect and its not something that can be attained if you believe it can your not any where near reality.
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