She's out in that dress and no veil.

Obviously Dad's not a fundamentalist.

Also it's worth noting that there are Christian strongholds in America that would be scandalized by such behavior from their youth and don't get me started on Orthodox Jews.

It's not a problem with one religion, it's a problem with the extremists within EVERY religion. Extremism takes hold more easily in poor/poorly educated populations, so the answer isn't bomb the crap out of them, the answer is to educate and lift them out of poverty.

The only thing I don't believe is when he repeats that he doesn't know anything about politics.
I'm sorry, Steven, I know you're trying to be humble and to deflect to your comedian nature, but of course you know politics. You're now doing the same thing Jon Stewart did all these years - pretend to know nothing while absolutely knowing a ton and teaching us all how to think in the system.

You have taken over for Stewart now. It's just the humility is a bit thinly veiled.

As psychologist Nicolai Sennels explains, "Mohammed, the prime example for Muslims, married Aisha when she was six and had intercourse with her when she was nine. Besides, according to the Quran (4:24), Muslims are allowed to have sex with female slaves[.]" In addition, "uncovered women are in many Muslim cultures seen as a kind of prostitute, and if a man is aroused by such a female, then – partly due to the corrupted logic of responsibility within Muslim psychology – the female is blamed for being raped (and will therefore often face execution)."

Andrew C. McCarthy, in his book entitled The Grand Jihad, described rape by Muslim immigrants as the "unspoken epidemic of Western Europe." Six years later, it continues to expand and sweep across the continent. Ingrid Carlqvist documents how Sweden is now the rape capital of the West, and when "Michael Hess, a local politician from [the] Sweden Democrat Party, tried to warn his nation that 'it is deeply rooted in Islam's culture to rape and brutalize women who refuse to comply with Islamic teachings' he was charged with 'denigration of ethnic groups'" – a crime in Sweden.

According to Islamic clerics, a woman who fails to wear a headscarf is asking to be raped. Consequently, in the eyes of Muslim men, Western women are seen as "promiscuous, loose, and willing," and since no one in the Islamic community refutes this, they engage in the violence and abuse of power that rape represents. In Australia, Lebanese gangs threaten policemen's wives and girlfriends with rape. In 2006, the mufti of Australia, Sheikh Taj al-Din al Hilali, maintained that "women who do not veil themselves, and allow themselves to be 'uncovered meat,' are at fault if they are raped."

In Rotherham, England, some 1,400 British children as young as 11 were plied with drugs before being passed around and sexually abused by Muslims. As shocking as this was, it is the fifth sex abuse ring led by Muslims

In Nigeria, Boko Haram seized 300 schoolgirls in order to sell them on the open market.

In Pakistan, the police do nothing as Hindu and Christian children as young as 7 years old are gang-raped and sold as prostitutes or slaves to wealthy Muslim families. From 2011 through 2014, approximately 550 Egyptian Coptic Christian girls were abducted and sexually abused by Muslim men.

I could go on and on, but the point is that in Islam, a women is considered to be a subservient and second class person. Men are supreme and women who do not dress appropriately (per Islamic standards) risk things happening to them. This is nothing new, it is part of their culture. Exposing them to women not raised in that culture is going to lead to incidents.

Now, please note that I do not think that we should not accept refugees. But I do think that we should make sure that women are aware of the situation and we should absolutely be enforcing the law in regards to the people breaking it, refugees or not.

@bobknight33, stop pretending this is anything other than an excuse for your thinly veiled racism.

There are several great videos on this site criticising religion in general and Islam in particular, but this is just xenophobic propaganda.

I say incorrectly secured in the exact fashion that it means. If the gun owner had taken care of their weapon and either made it inaccessible or unusable, then the incidents would not have happened. For instance, in the Sandy Hook shooting, the mother knew her son was mentally unstable and did not properly secure her weapons. This led to her death, followed by many others.

Gun safety means you treat your gun as a deadly weapon, and you secure it so that someone who should not have access to it cannot get it. If you don't, then bad things happen.

We do not have an obsession or addiction to guns, we have a right to them. Like it or not, we are not like other countries and never have been. This defines us and also creates uniquely difficult situations if we do not pay the proper respect to those rights. You can make thinly veiled comments about me being an addict or substance abuser if you like, I prefer to think that I am a citizen of a country unlike any other to this date in history. If that pisses you off, so be it.

I would also like to note that while I have been extremely civil and logical to this point, I have been constantly subjected to comments that try to loop me in with the radical gun nuts. I cannot stress enough that I am not, that I do think we need further gun control. It's as if people can't field a valid argument and feel the need to paint me as such instead, ignoring my repeated comments to the contrary.

Lol, you're joking right?

We're only seeing more of it now because cameras are everywhere. Portability and minaturisation are pulling back the veil, but police brutality has always been a thing. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that.

It might be more frequent now but it's not a new thing.

"Because people aren't born polygamists..." Sorry John, but whether you learn a behavior of mutual love and respect for the bonds with other human lives, you're still fucking human. I hate this shit that he spouts, the veiled hatred that conservatives jack off to with glee. The same hatred discriminating blacks used against gays... That's great...I love the support the gay community gets but not those that believe in alternative forms of marriage. It is funny that if read that another way, most people are born gay or straight. Essentially, if they aren't born that way and instead grow naturally into it, John thinks you're a pickle puffing faggot who doesn't deserve equality? I say that pissed off because homosexuals have always compared polygamy closer to bestiality than to their own sexual orientation. Its been laughed at. Haha. Fuck Stewart's views on this. I love him, but fuck his stupidity here.

Good, so we can agree on the one possible reason for him not being shot could have been racial bias (scrawny white kid). Cool.




As for the rest:

"
- the Civil War wasn't about Slavery..
"

Propaganda is real. Believing everything you're told by a government authority who has the power to control information, and who has a vested interest in drumming up nationalism, is naive. Particularly when that authority's actions so often throughout the history of events in question have not matched their words.

I would only ask you this :
How many of your neighbors today (of any race) do you think would willingly die _for you_, a stranger to them, for _any_ reason?
How many white people do you think would have died _for you_ back then? (I use "for you" because you earlier indicated that you are black, so the question is meant to be answered not rhetorically, but actually from your perspective)
Does it make sense that the civil war was out of the goodness of white people's hearts, or does it make more sense that white people had a score to settle with one another?
Do you really think that primary schools are telling the absolute unbiased truth about the civil war (particularly given that the north got to dictate the curriculum after victory)?

My point here has nothing to do with any opinions of black people. It is squarely to do with distrust of government as an institution combined with government's history of white washing is own actions after the fact. Don't conflate the two.




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- that white people are treated just as poorly as black people (sometimes)..

[...]

Like I said before. Fuck off with that..
"Well, cops are mean to ME TOO!!" bullshit.
"

Why would I not assert that [*some*] white individuals are [at times] treated just as poorly [or poorer] as [*some*] black [individuals]? (to be stated precisely).

Your command that I not mention harms done to whites makes it sound like you don't think those harms are worth mentioning. Maybe because you think they are not real or meaningful?

There are plenty of police brutality videos on this site depicting injury and murder of white people at the hands of police.

Do dead white people get to come back to life, because they aren't black, and so their gun shot wounds obviously aren't as bad?

Or those that went to jail for 'assaulting a police officer' after a cop beat the crap out of them, do they get to rewind their lives and get their squandered time [and reputation/job] back, because they aren't black?

Like I said, I agree that black people get fucked with more than white people - but I don't deny the suffering of anyone, and I certainly wouldn't go as far as to assume that 'it's all about me'.

In essence, being targeted more often, is not the same as being the only target.

The general problem I see with LE (that affects everyone), is the government's (police are the executive branch) lack of obedience to the 14th amendment, giving themselves privilege to harm the state (in a republic, citizens are the state) whenever their agents personally whim so.

That's a separate issue from LE officers more often using their privilege on blacks than on whites - which as I stated, is also real issue in and of itself.

Fixing this disregard for the 14th amendment would encompass everyone, so 'we're all in it together' in this regard.





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- that the ONLY DIFFERENCE between cops arresting a MASS fucking MURDERER WITHOUT INCIDENCE..

And murdering 12 year old Tamir Rice for wielding a BB-GUN!

Is that Rice pointed a "realistic-looking" gun at cops.
"

I never even mentioned anything about this.

Was that the difference? Was it actually that Rice pointed a real looking fake gun at a cop, while this recent white kid didn't?
(I don't actually know)

If that really is the difference, then I guess I can see why the one pointing a gun at the cop would get shot by a cop.
...
Although, I suspect that the black kid never pointed a gun at anyone, and the cop lied about it, and the cop just shot the kid 'just in case' (because that's what cops do when they feel even remotely in danger, because they're trained to be paranoid and afraid of everything, and to place their own safety first and foremost). And I suspect that cops would have liked to do the same in this recent case, but their departments are probably afraid of drawing more negative attention to the police.
But, that's just my suspicion. I wasn't there.




In this recent case, what was the connection between the white kid and the church he attacked? Was it random, or did he pick it for a reason? (actually asking, not some veiled statement)

-scheherazade

Well, I think 9/11 was probably the watershed moment there.

And lets be real, there are other reasons the US has interest in the Middle East beyond just stopping terrorism.

I love the Stewart formula. Make people laugh enough and they'll sit and listen to your sincere thoughts on anything, EVEN when you completely remove the comic veil. Not that I am at all criticising him or suggesting it is a deliberate ploy, I'm just glad somebody can say things so eloquently to an audience without it sounding like a lecture.

You most certainly get fussy whenever anyone says a cop is engaging in brutality or misconduct. Don't pretend like you don't, sweetie.

If you like, I can go back thru all your comments and point out many examples.
Let's not forget the thinly veiled racism either.

Or the openly jingoist "Obama is a Foreigner" talking point you and bobknight ramble about at times.



Again, it's the pinnacle of hypocrisy to be offended by that..

While effortlessly labeling any group of black teens confronted by police as lazy, disobedient, thugs who are clearly part of "the criminal element".

Just keep that in mind before commenting.

You said
"Thinly Veiled Racist Comments "

You mean non nonexistent.

I call you a racist @lantern53 cause YOU ARE A RACIST.

I love Videosift.

You & Bobknight & formerly Quantumushroom ruin my experience of an otherwise engaging discussion of current events.

It's bad enough that everytime i go on Reddit, I have to read thru thousands of thinly veiled racist comments..

But like a said, you don't care that your racist.

So, if you're gonna annoy and frustrate the fuck outta ME with YOUR willfully ignorant comments.

I'm gonna dig into you untill you learn that it's extremely offense & not-okay to publicly voice those stupid opinions.

Especially considering, YOU"RE A COP!

Goddamnit I hate racism & racist.

Seriously, how the fuck can you & Bobknight consistently say ..

..the Most Thinly Veiled Racist Comments & Opinions Evar..

..for years on end, and still not be banned..

Yet I got temp banned for SUGGESTING how actually insulting i could be.

Why do you think it's okay @lantern53 to tell me and other black people to stop complaining or "makin' a fuss"..

When someone who looks exactly like us is murdered by the a government official, swore to protect & serve everyone equally..

But it's fine for you to get all "butthurt" when someone mentions that a cop "got what they deserved"

Hypocrisy much?

Steve probably thinks he's badass for his antiquated, thinly veiled bigotry. One thing anyone with a moral compass (I prefer compass to barometer) needs to understand is that these days being an asshole is a schtick. Let's see this for what it is. Assholes spouting received morality as a schtick should not be surprising or insulting. They get paid for it, the other assholes applaud them and they get to feel superior. Circle jerk. Time to move on people.

So, when you can't refute the points of fact I made, you just make pithy comments? Got it.

I stated an opinion. There's no hubris there. Jesus, I even qualified it with phrases like "I see no reason" and "I don't believe".

"I see no reason for Texas to secede, so I don't believe it's warranted"

does not equate to

"there can be no possible reason Texas should ever secede, and I am the arbiter of whether it should or not"

If you can provide me with a legitimate reason for Texas to secede, I'd consider changing my opinion. Right now, the only arguments I've heard for Texas to secede have been essentially thinly-veiled racism and right wing propaganda.

And we haven't even touched on the fact that the vast majority of Texans don't actually want to secede

edit: just in case you didn't realise from the or the fact that I flat out stated it to @newtboy, my original post was tongue-in-cheek