The kind of sarcastic, awkward "The Office"-style humour they introduced into the first Hobbit movie was a real turn-off for me, as was the sloppy, rushed-looking CGI (there's a scene at Rivendell where they didn't even bother replacing the scale doubles' faces with the actors' faces) and the odd habit of having the characters fall hundreds of feet onto solid rock without breaking any bones (this happens at least three times in An Unexpected Journey).

The Hobbit is a children's book, and doesn't meet the tone of its sequel very well, even after Tolkien's revised edition. It is a lighter book than the Lord of the Rings, in every sense, and the first film showed that it really can't bear the weight of either the padding PJ has added to the story, nor the efforts to bring a more Rings-style feeling of epic seriousness to what is a small, selfish story about some dwarves looking for gold. The epic/serious tone constantly conflicts with the childish slapstick humour, meaning that neither really work.

It would have been much better as a single 2.5-hour film. I dread to think how much wandering about, awkward humour, diversions from the story, too-weighty extracts from the LOTR appendices and (oh goody) dull Elven love story padding is to come in the next 6 hours of this trilogy.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

I'm really looking forward to this, but not looking forward to another 3 movies. Why did they have to split it into 3 movies??


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The American version will star Jonny Lee Miller as Holmes in New York (I think he's playing an American Holmes as well, not "these are Holmes's adventures while in America"). The show will be on CBS and is called Elementary. I don't think it will be a full Americanization of the show, like Office or Being Human, but just doing the same thing, a modern day Sherlock Holmes, just based in America... of course CBS could still opt out if they don't like the pilot...

>> ^lucky760:

Thanks for not being too arrogant to provide a short description. There is surprisingly little info about the show, but I was able to find all six episodes available for download. Thus far I've seen the first and enjoyed it rather thoroughly. It's exactly my type of show. And I love Jim Canterbury as Dr. Watson. I wonder if Sherlock was originally conceived as a homosexual.
Are you saying they're working on creating a US version of this BBC series?
>> ^RFlagg:
Really? Sherlock is a great show... you should be sure to check it out. If you have Netflix instant, the first season is on there... and on PBS Masterpice page for free if you don't have Netflix.... Only 3 episodes to a season (2 seasons so far), each about an hour and a half long.
I don't think I'll be able to do the American remake of Sherlock though...

Thanks for not being too arrogant to provide a short description. There is surprisingly little info about the show, but I was able to find all six episodes available for download. Thus far I've seen the first and enjoyed it rather thoroughly. It's exactly my type of show. And I love Jim Canterbury as Dr. Watson. I wonder if Sherlock was originally conceived as a homosexual.

Are you saying they're working on creating a US version of this BBC series?

>> ^RFlagg:

Really? Sherlock is a great show... you should be sure to check it out. If you have Netflix instant, the first season is on there... and on PBS Masterpice page for free if you don't have Netflix.... Only 3 episodes to a season (2 seasons so far), each about an hour and a half long.
I don't think I'll be able to do the American remake of Sherlock though...
>> ^lucky760:
>> ^berticus:
well yes but WHY HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED SHERLOCK YET FUUUUUUUUUUUU >> ^lucky760:
Just finished watching The Office (UK) for the first time and discovered the actor who played Tim Canterbury portrays Bilbo Baggins in this flick. Neat.


I don't know how to use google. Can you please link me to what it is you're referring to? I'd love to check out some new quality material. Is this Sherlock you speak of an ongoing series or a film or a mini-series, or...?

Really? Sherlock is a great show... you should be sure to check it out. If you have Netflix instant, the first season is on there... and on PBS Masterpice page for free if you don't have Netflix.... Only 3 episodes to a season (2 seasons so far), each about an hour and a half long.
I don't think I'll be able to do the American remake of Sherlock though...

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^berticus:
well yes but WHY HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED SHERLOCK YET FUUUUUUUUUUUU >> ^lucky760:
Just finished watching The Office (UK) for the first time and discovered the actor who played Tim Canterbury portrays Bilbo Baggins in this flick. Neat.


I don't know how to use google. Can you please link me to what it is you're referring to? I'd love to check out some new quality material. Is this Sherlock you speak of an ongoing series or a film or a mini-series, or...?

Oh yeah, sure, here's the link.
>> ^lucky760:

>> ^berticus:
well yes but WHY HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED SHERLOCK YET FUUUUUUUUUUUU >> ^lucky760:
Just finished watching The Office (UK) for the first time and discovered the actor who played Tim Canterbury portrays Bilbo Baggins in this flick. Neat.


I don't know how to use google. Can you please link me to what it is you're referring to? I'd love to check out some new quality material. Is this Sherlock you speak of an ongoing series or a film or a mini-series, or...?

>> ^berticus:

well yes but WHY HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED SHERLOCK YET FUUUUUUUUUUUU >> ^lucky760:
Just finished watching The Office (UK) for the first time and discovered the actor who played Tim Canterbury portrays Bilbo Baggins in this flick. Neat.



I don't know how to use google. Can you please link me to what it is you're referring to? I'd love to check out some new quality material. Is this Sherlock you speak of an ongoing series or a film or a mini-series, or...?

well yes but WHY HAVE YOU NOT WATCHED SHERLOCK YET FUUUUUUUUUUUU >> ^lucky760:

Just finished watching The Office (UK) for the first time and discovered the actor who played Tim Canterbury portrays Bilbo Baggins in this flick. Neat.

WTF book were you reading?
>> ^Ryjkyj:


It's about the change of religions and a new mythology overtaking the old.

>> ^Fantomas:

Some of those dwarves look far too human.


I'll have to agree with you there. Way too slim & no beard to speak of.

Check out this pic.

http://the-hobbitmovie.com/meet-hobbit-dwarves-fili-and-kili/

They look all slender and "slightly" rugged, they look more like Elves. Dwarves are supposed to be all short and stocky. I dunno..

*Edit: On second watch, it's mostly Thorin & Kili..

>> ^kymbos:

...We all knew he was going to get to the mountain - why write about it forever? And then I thought, well, not only do we know he's going to get to the mountain, we also know he's going to struggle with gollum and then overcome and throw the thing in the mountain. I was probably too young when I first read it (like 11 or so), but I just skipped to the end, only to find that (from distant memory) there are several chapters after he throws the ring in to tie things up. Several chapters! Ugh...


But the book isn't about Frodo throwing the ring into the mountain. It's about the change of religions and a new mythology overtaking the old. Tolkien was a christian, but I think he was sad to see how previous ages of the world lost their power and disappeared for all time.

>> ^therealblankman:

>> ^Yogi:
What book?

A book is a medium of communicating information. Kind of like an iPad, but it needs fewer batteries. Books are no longer popular among the general populace, and are almost exclusively used by Communists, Liberals, Intellectuals and other Nazis.


But that's not important right now.

>> ^kymbos:

Jaesus, it's just a book/film/whatever.
Read Lord of the Flies, you people - it might actually make you think.


About what? What happens if we're all mean to each other?

I think I understand why some people don't like LOTR. When I was a kid playing Dungeons and Dragons, I used to think that LOTR was a D&D rip-off! But eventually I read it. I hardly read any fantasy at all, in fact, "Game of Thrones" is the only other medieval fantasy I've ever read. But I do have a soft spot in my heart for LOTR. Actually, my friend is an amateur bookbinder and we're working on an 11" by 17" hand-printed leather and vellum copy. So yeah, I guess you could say I'm a little crazy about the subject.

Still, Tolkien had his issues like every other author. I for one can't wait for the new movie. It's obvious that Peter Jackson has given so much of his own life and culture to the movies that I find them beautiful to watch in their own right. He worked so hard making every tiny little detail. In fact, the only thing that gets tedious for me, weirdly enough, are all the battle scenes. But I love how everything looks like a Led Zeppelin cover though. And I love how the orcs and goblins all have kiwi accents. That's just hilarious.

HA! LOTF vs LOTR!

>> ^kymbos:

I'll say it - Lord of the Rings was boooooooooooriiiiiiiiinggggggg.
And by that I mean both the books and the films. Self-indulgent and overcooked.


Dear John,

I used to love you, felt like we had a deeper connection you know, like we got each other. How wrong can a person be.