My interpretation of the movie is that tom's contemporary wife was writing her book based on memories of a past life. Current day Tom discovered the tree of life and used it to "cure" death, becoming immortal himself, but too late to save his wife. He planted a seed from the tree on her grave, and hundreds of years later I guess he's become rich enough to pay for an Alcubierre bubble ship to take himself and the tree, which now houses her soul, out to the supernova for a reunion. The conquistador's unique death, after ingesting the tree of life's nectar, created some kind of open tunnel for his soul to move between lifetimes. That's the only explanation for the most confusing part of the movie for me: when space-Tom appears to the mayan guard. I know it's not supposed to be literal but part of me wonders if immortal Tom has not truly re-incarnated 1,000 years back in time, and now has a chance to cherish every moment with the next incarnation of his true love.

I wonder how many years in earth time passed during his journey? Could be millions. Who's to say what's happening to the passage of time inside tha bubble?

I had a long-lasting crush on a girl, and it actually motivated and inspired me in many ways over the years. Feelings of attachment and righteousness aren't "in place of" clear thinking, they can co-exist.

Religion is a little deeper in us, remember Ted Kaczynski making up his own rabbit-god while he was solo in the Montana forest?

"While I was living in the woods I sort of invented some gods for myself. Not that I believed in these things intellectually, but they were ideas that sort of corresponded with some of the feelings I had. I think the first one I invented was Grandfather Rabbit. You know the snowshoe rabbits were my main source of meat during the winters. I had spent a lot of time learning what they do and following their tracks all around before I could get close enough to shoot them. Sometimes you would track a rabbit around and around and then the tracks disappear. You can't figure out where that rabbit went and lose the trail. I invented a myth for myself, that this was the Grandfather Rabbit, the grandfather who was responsible for the existence of all other rabbits. He was able to disappear, that is why you couldn't catch him and why you would never see him... Every time I shot a snowshoe rabbit, I would always say 'thank you Grandfather Rabbit.'"

It satisfies our need to humanize our environment (and our existence) and have a personal relationship with it. Though I think your metaphor was right on in some ways, I don't think religion can be reduced to that level of triviality.

>> ^Drax:
Obviously this fades over time as one wises up.. but remember getting a massive crush on someone in your youth, and falling in love with very little knowledge of the person? Remember how it felt?
I think this same emotion is felt for many with religion. No I don't mean they have an actual crush on Jesus or anything, it's just that same sort of base feel of love. I mean it's there in all of us, we just wise up to falling into it frivolously over time with physical people. When it's felt for something abstract, there's no rejection to make you realize you're in it's trance, or conversely no one to work with to develop it into a more true love.
I think -that's- a key reason religion is so strong for some people. It's certainly a good emotion, but it causes a feeling of attachment and righteousness (in a, 'I'm on the right path...' sort of way) in place of clear thinking.
Just my theory.

Obviously this fades over time as one wises up.. but remember getting a massive crush on someone in your youth, and falling in love with very little knowledge of the person? Remember how it felt?

I think this same emotion is felt for many with religion. No I don't mean they have an actual crush on Jesus or anything, it's just that same sort of base feel of love. I mean it's there in all of us, we just wise up to falling into it frivolously over time with physical people. When it's felt for something abstract, there's no rejection to make you realize you're in it's trance, or conversely no one to work with to develop it into a more true love.

I think -that's- a key reason religion is so strong for some people. It's certainly a good emotion, but it causes a feeling of attachment and righteousness (in a, 'I'm on the right path...' sort of way) in place of clear thinking.

Just my theory.

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let the wind and the rain and the breeze blow high
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all the rest they swear they'll have her
let them all say as they will
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I'll tell me ma
when I get home
the boys won't leave
the girls alone
they pulled my hair
they broke my comb
but thats alright
til I get home

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^Maybe I'm speaking for myself, and my experience is atypical of the median, but the concept of first love, true love, pure love, essence of love, etc. that is presented in hallmark cards, fairytales, and teenage dramas really doesn't have much basis in reality.

Love isn't some starry eyed 16 year old on a first date. The love you are describing is the love that is presented to children as a sort of trick, to keep things moving along. Children need dreams and ambition, and a lot of that is presented to them at a young age.

True love, as I would define it, is taking responsibility for another person's life. There are many reasons one might be inclined to do this - some may be genetically biased, but everything else that is typically associated with love - caring, lust, affection, generosity, passion, adventure - the things that make it into the stories of "pure love" - you can have any of those things with a stranger off the street.

Loving someone is making a choice to share the consequences of their actions - no matter how poor, or unfortunate they may be. Love is enduring the frustrations of a long stint of serious illness, working 50 hours a week to provide for your family, or coping with the hardship of losing everything you own due to poor investments. There's really nothing glamorous or "magical" about it.

Infinite kindness ala Gandhi is not love. It doesn't take much to perform a single act of kindness. You can walk up to any beggar on the street and tuck $1,000 in his pocket; but would you take up begging right next to him, for the next ten years, if that's what it took to get you both safely out of homelessness?

Maybe I'm a sociopath, but it seems easy enough to explain without a divine spirit

As far as humanity goes, humanity is a concept. While it is not impossible to love a concept, why would you spend the single life you have trying to love the concept of humanity, when you could love an actual human?

Or do you mean you wish to love every human alive? If that is the case, what kind of meaning would your love really have?

>> ^imstellar28:
I don't know anything about you but I'll just throw this out there....you must never have lived with a girl or been married if you are still talking about true love, first love, or the essence of love <IMG class=smiley src="http://static1.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/tongue.gif">


Based on your assumption why would that matter? Would you being saying i have no frame of reference (donny) or that i am inexperienced in Love. If by what the last posts are saying it is encoded within species to know exactly what is what is not Love. This conversation went the route of talking love between a man/women. Though that is one aspect but i was more interested in the Love of humanity. the single acts of kindess. The Ghandi or MLK jr. Love...

yes i am not married but that does not change that i have been in love....

I don't know anything about you but I'll just throw this out there....you must never have lived with a girl or been married if you are still talking about true love, first love, or the essence of love

How can he be "damn sure" that he will outlive his children? Obviously most father's would desire to see their children live beyond them. How does this somehow invalidate the Christian understanding of an eternal God. Is the argument that only a true loving Father would euthanize himself before seeing one of his children die? What if the child dies unjustly (i.e. is ruthlessly murdered for no reason)? Would the loving father's obligation be to end his own life? Or would a loving father seek justice for his son's meaningless death? If I have misunderstood Hitchens' point here, please explain.

On the matter of the Austrian incestuous and deplorable father, I believe Hitchens' appraisal of the actual crime and situation is well put and accurate. It is nothing short of a heinous and grotesque injustice. Words fail to grasp the depravity. Hitchens' goes on to seem to suggest that Christianity would overlook the injustice of the crime, and that a Christian's response is "that's alright." I believe this reveals a grave misunderstanding by Hitchens of Christianity. Christianity takes justice very seriously, an understanding of the Biblical teaching on evil and sacrifice cannot deny that. The Bible also does not encourage inactivity to injustice. In this lifetime Christians are required to "promote justice" (Micah 6:8). I honestly cannot understand how one can criticize the Bible for taking evil of this nature (or any nature for that matter) lightly. And yet that is exactly what Hitchens appears to be doing.

Tyranny (a tyrannical God) is a logical conclusion to a perception of the Gospel message that is absent of righteousness (to make something right; to right a wrong; to seek justice).

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It isn't true love unless you spend money. 300 million Americans can't be wrong.

I know a country where people fly the national flag exclusively due to a big football (aka soccer) trend. Be it in their cars or on their house's windows, the flag is there since the early 2000's just because a coach (a brazilian guy by the way) spread the idea that the team needed iconographic support among other types of support. People in this country were pleased with this idea since it added the patriotic feelings that their will to chaint with heart (and throat) the national anthem at national soccer games did already since the ages.

In this country the president doesn't perform a parade when elected; its tv programs are never taken seriously except the cultural ones (which aren't national productionsonly) and news broadcasts are genuine (not necessarily good though). This country never did and won't get mindlessly involved in lame wars and it never took claim to the beginning of what we know today as globalization and without which we'd all be in a very very different world (in a negative, way of course).

Just a simple lesson about true patriotism, like granpa and granma are a lesson about true love.