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You're giving up Pepsi until abortion "ends?" Cool story.

bcglorf says...

>> ^Jinx:

Pretty sure life begins millions of times in my testicles. It ends by the millions at the end of a condom too. Oh ok, just gametes right? Only "half" murder. Well then life begins when sperm and egg cell meet, but as has already been mentioned here that little bundle of cells doesn't always find itself alive for very long. The body has a rather nasty habit of flushing a fertilized egg out, Women commit infanticide by design. Bitches.
But seriously, the question of when life starts seems fairly simple. The question of when that life becomes sacred, when it becomes capable of suffering, of thought and human intelligence...We can have a debate about how far into pregnancy an abortion should be allowed, argue 1 week in one way or the other and it would be a reasonble and I think worthwhile discussion. Unfortunately the anti-abortion camp isn't reasonable. They pitched their tent in the extremes. The implausbility and insanity of their position is clear. Their assertions are emotional rather than logical and they shoudln't be listened too.


Myself I consider life to begin at implantation of the fertilized egg. The frequency of spontaneous abortion from that point on is radically reduced. None of the every sperm is sacred madness. Most importantly, it is the last clearly definable point I can think of prior birth. An arbitrary, x days, weeks or months just feels exactly that, arbitrary. Barring human intervention an implanted fertilized egg will by born, grow old and die. Sure, it still has the chance of dying naturally before birth, but we don't accept the infant mortality rates when prosecuting child murderers so it hardly seems a valid argument to when a fetus is differentiated as a human.

I'm open to being dissuaded on when life begins, but the lamentations over the consequences of any given definition aren't what I consider valid arguments.

You're giving up Pepsi until abortion "ends?" Cool story.

Jinx says...

Pretty sure life begins millions of times in my testicles. It ends by the millions at the end of a condom too. Oh ok, just gametes right? Only "half" murder. Well then life begins when sperm and egg cell meet, but as has already been mentioned here that little bundle of cells doesn't always find itself alive for very long. The body has a rather nasty habit of flushing a fertilized egg out, Women commit infanticide by design. Bitches.

But seriously, the question of when life starts seems fairly simple. The question of when that life becomes sacred, when it becomes capable of suffering, of thought and human intelligence...We can have a debate about how far into pregnancy an abortion should be allowed, argue 1 week in one way or the other and it would be a reasonble and I think worthwhile discussion. Unfortunately the anti-abortion camp isn't reasonable. They pitched their tent in the extremes. The implausbility and insanity of their position is clear. Their assertions are emotional rather than logical and they shoudln't be listened too.

Pink Elephant Crap or Chicken Nuggets

Asmo says...

>> ^Skeeve:
If it tasted good before you knew what it was, it tastes good after and knowing it's testicle, or horse meat, or snails, doesn't change that.


Enjoying a meal is more than just taste, it's sight and smell, texture in your mouth and also the subjective attitude towards the meal.

There's a slight difference between finding out you're eating offal when you've previously espoused to dislike offal intensely, and finding out that the nugget you are eating is a homogenised waste product that is chemically treated, flavoured and dyed to work around the massive bacterial load. I'm wondering what the profit margin is on those offcuts once you take out the cost of "disguising it's origins so human's will accept it's 'chicken'".

Pink Elephant Crap or Chicken Nuggets

Skeeve says...

This doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Firstly, you know when you eat something like that that it isn't going to be the healthiest thing in the world, so you can't complain that it's bad for you.

Secondly, ammonia is a natural chemical that is necessary for human life. The amount of ammonia one would have to ingest to be harmful to a human is huge, and actually ingesting that much would be unthinkable because of the horrendous taste it would impart to the food.

Thirdly, with regards to tendons, blood, eyeballs, etc., the only reason that bothers people is because of social conditioning. Billions of people all over the world would be happy to eat those parts of an animal.

I find it so silly that people will eat something, think it tastes really good, then will stop eating it once they find out what it is. If it tasted good before you knew what it was, it tastes good after and knowing it's testicle, or horse meat, or snails, doesn't change that.

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Opposition to Paying for Capitalism's Crisis

enoch says...

this was brilliant and totally worth the time.
complex issues take some time and dr wolff lays it out nicely the history to how we got here.

the ending is almost chilling when he speaks about board directors pushing the working man even further because there have been no reprisals of anger and rage.
seems this was done before the occupy movement started.
seems americans are not just angry...but pissed off.

ah..to watch occupy oakland and how those thousands of people shut down the highway.
or the new occupyyourhome movement.
or how they are going to occupy k street.
now that really warms my cockles (having no idea what a cockle is..but its warm i tell ya).

and i really hope our political and financial elite ignore frank luntz's suggestions to tone down the aggression.
please please please ignore that man.
that is the only thing i want for christmas.

ah fuck it.
here is my christmas list:
1.i want those who have corrupted our democracy to keep pushing back and with authoritarian vigor.to use the police force as their own gestopo to crush those people who dare question their dominance and right to fleece an entire country.i want them to totally overstep their power and in doing so enrage an entire people out of apathy.

2.i wish for the CEO of <fill in corporate thief> to wake up from his home and look outside his window to be greeted by an ocean of angry faces and to have somebody filming him as he pisses himself.

3.i wish for every politician be forced to choose between getting ass-fucked with a razor blade dildo OR confess to every back door deal that fucked over,not only our democracy,but every citizen in this country.
both to be televised of course.
im betting there will be a shortage of dildos and proctologists.

4.i wish to see more people on the streets.i want to see so many that even the GODS will notice.i want so many people on the street that traffic comes to a halt and businesses shut down.

and i want to see the people who KNEW they were fucking us in the ass to be hauled out by their testicles and put on public display,their family stripped of all ill-gotten wealth and influence and for them to know the true meaning of SHAME.

so../claps
when we doin this thing?
christmas is only a few weeks away.
ill bring the weed!

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Gordon Ramsay Eats Shark Fin Soup for the First Time

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^ipfreely:

Shark fin soup, brought to you by same people who eat Tiger testicles.
@dannym3141, You don't know what you are talking about. This is how Chinese people behave. They are not nice people in general.
It's their culture to fuck you over. Ever dealt with Chinese business people?
http://videosift.com/video/Fake-Eggs-and-Grapes-Being-Sold-In-China
They will fuck you over because even if you complain, there are others who you can fuck over.


Yeah, all 1.4 billion chinese people act exactly the same. Just like all americans are fat, all brits are snooty and all italians are mobsters.

That was an example of a generalisation. Generalisations aren't helpful. It's much better instead to look at an individual and judge them by their words and actions. That way, I can read your posts and safely decide you're a moron.

Gordon Ramsay Eats Shark Fin Soup for the First Time

ipfreely says...

Shark fin soup, brought to you by same people who eat Tiger testicles.

@dannym3141, You don't know what you are talking about. This is how Chinese people behave. They are not nice people in general.

It's their culture to fuck you over. Ever dealt with Chinese business people?

http://videosift.com/video/Fake-Eggs-and-Grapes-Being-Sold-In-China

They will fuck you over because even if you complain, there are others who you can fuck over.

Las Vegas Police Beating Caught On Tape

Jerykk says...

>> ^Ryjkyj:
astr0, MrFisk and MarineGunrock are absolutely right. Anyone who is being beaten by an authority figure for acting within their legal rights, and then cries out are such pussies. Forget about the fact that you can totally hear the pepper spray. Cops totally have the right to put their hands on you any time they want, and if you are afraid when they do it, then it's like "two for flinching", and they are totally exonerated. Especially if it doesn't make a loud noise. When I beat my six month old son, sometimes my wife can't hear it in the other room. So if he cries out in pain, I usually give him an extra shot in the testicles, because he's such a whiny little bitch. But don't worry. You can't actually "hear it" when I do it. So it's fine. I'm really glad that there are people like astr0 and MrFisk and MarineGunrock in the world. Otherwise, we would be ruled by a bunch of people who cry when you invade their personal space while wearing a gun, pepper spray, a large composite bludgeon designed for cracking bone, and handcuffs to make sure you can't fight back while being violated and stripped of your personal rights. What a bunch of little bitches they all are. Here's a question that MarineGunrock and MrFisk and astr0 might be able to answer. Sometimes, I'll pick a girl up in a bar. Then, after I drug her, take her back to my garage, tie her up, and show her my collection of boning knives, she screams like a little bitch. Now here's my question: what could possibly set her off like that? I mean, it's not like you can hear anything happening to her. WTF? Right? Remember, here in America, it's not assault if you just force someone to the ground and break their camera. You actually have to make a noise while doing it. And that holds doubly true if they are screaming.>> ^MarineGunrock: I'm honestly surprised they didn't delete the footage. Also, why he was screaming like a little bitch? I didn't hear st striking or the click of a taser. Pain compliance, maybe?

Out of curiosity, at what point in the video do you hear pepper spray? To me, it sounded like the guy was wrestled to the ground and handcuffed, at which point he started screaming "HHEEELLLLPPPP" for a few minutes until he ran out of breath and began acting in a somewhat civilized manner. If he had been pepper sprayed, his screaming would have been a lot more erratic and it would have taken him a lot longer to recover.

I'm not saying that the cops didn't handle this badly, but to label this a "beating" is a bit hyperbolic.



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