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NetRunner says...

Yeah, I've been feeling the same way since the standoff over union rights in Wisconsin.

Something's going to have to give, people have got to snap out of it and start acting.

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My pleasure! Now, I just wonder how much longer we are going to sit here and take this shit. He's right, it's time for 60's style protests. It's been time for quite a while now.

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Thanks for the promote!

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*promote



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Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

blankfist says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Oh please. You and others seem to want to make this an analog of Iraq. It isn't even close. This isn't some unilateral imperialistic crusade, it's limited strategic international aid to Libyan rebels, and an attempt to limit casualties by neutering the Libyan military's air force. There is plenty of room for criticism, and the wisdom of this action is yet to be determined, but let's try to separate self gratifying hyperbole from reality. >> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Roman Emperors needed to establish legitimacy of their claim to the throne via a initial, successful, millitary campaign. I see an unfortunate parallel in our own time.



I always hoped you'd be more of a peacenik.

Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

jwray says...

>> ^Ornthoron:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Roman Emperors needed to establish legitimacy of their claim to the throne via a initial, successful, millitary campaign. I see an unfortunate parallel in our own time.

This is a modern myth. The Roman Empire stopped expanding in the beginning of the second century under Trajan, and continued to exist within these borders for almost 400 more years. There were often civil wars over successions, but most emperors ascended peacefully.


The Roman Empire reached its maximum extent in 117, but after that they still very often had to fight around the borders to keep/retake what they had.

Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^Ornthoron:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Roman Emperors needed to establish legitimacy of their claim to the throne via a initial, successful, millitary campaign. I see an unfortunate parallel in our own time.

This is a modern myth. The Roman Empire stopped expanding in the beginning of the second century under Trajan, and continued to exist within these borders for almost 400 more years. There were often civil wars over successions, but most emperors ascended peacefully.


Ascending to the throne via civil war was more the context to which I was referring. Military strength was always the way in which they maintained their legitimacy, and expressed their power. We have had 40 years of conflict, only rarely been submitted to the consent of the people. Like DT points out, it isn't exactly like Iraq, but to me, it is in all the ways that matter.

Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Oh please. You and others seem to want to make this an analog of Iraq. It isn't even close. This isn't some unilateral imperialistic crusade, it's limited strategic international aid to Libyan rebels, and an attempt to limit casualties by neutering the Libyan military's air force. There is plenty of room for criticism, and the wisdom of this action is yet to be determined, but let's try to separate self gratifying hyperbole from reality. >> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Roman Emperors needed to establish legitimacy of their claim to the throne via a initial, successful, millitary campaign. I see an unfortunate parallel in our own time.

Olbermann Special Comment - Libya and The 5 Second Rule

Ornthoron says...

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Roman Emperors needed to establish legitimacy of their claim to the throne via a initial, successful, millitary campaign. I see an unfortunate parallel in our own time.


This is a modern myth. The Roman Empire stopped expanding in the beginning of the second century under Trajan, and continued to exist within these borders for almost 400 more years. There were often civil wars over successions, but most emperors ascended peacefully.

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Special Comment: What Are We Learning After Tuscon?

NetRunner says...

>> ^blankfist:

I'll tell you what we learned. We learned that crazy people do crazy shit sometimes. The end. Fade out. Roll credits.


Right, because it's definitely not an opportunity to stop and reflect on whether the kinds of crazy things we say are too much, because we know the only time we should ever dial it back a notch is when there's incontrovertible proof that rhetoric got someone killed.



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