#1, I can't believe this dude killed two people over some stuff. No one is arguing the burglars shouldn't be punished, but that's why we have laws, police, and due process. Do the police screw up sometimes? Ya, but at least they are held (somewhat) accountable. Vigilantes are the last thing we need.

#2 for all the gun toting people who think the SOLUTION to Virgina Tech, Columbine etc is to add MORE guns to the mix, I'm really trying hard to understand you... Let's think about it, a random shooting opens up, people scramble, they're scared, nervous, and shocked... Do you think they're going to react by pulling out their "piece" and nailing the assailant(s) with one clean shot? Come on! And what happens when inevitably someone trying to "do good" accidentally shoots another civilian? "oops?, sorry, my bad, I was trying to get the bad guy..."?

The solution is LESS guns, NOT more.

You wanna hunt? fine... get a license, get dressed up in your orange outfit and hunt... with a hunting rifle. You want to go to a shooting range, fine. That doesn't mean you need to be carrying a gun with you all the time (honey, stop the car, there's a deer!), you certainly do not need it concealed, and certainly do not need a handgun/shotgun/automatic-death-cannon.

The second amendment was written in a time of muskets where the US had no full-time army and the populous would be relied up to defend against/overthrow the government. Well... a lot of good all those guns have done preventing the government from stripping the US citizens of their rights. At this rate, the right to bear arms will soon be the only right remaining.

Actually, my buddies and I DO shoot competitively. We also use targets that fall back, when hit. The splatter is not dangerous, it is not a richochet. And, splatter, as it is, is an exceedingly rare occurance. Out of THOUSANDS of rounds... splatter almost never happens. These same style of targets are used at other IPSC matches in the area.

In reply to this comment by rembar:
Rifter, I don't want to be mean, but please reconsider your course of action. Softer bullets and lower power make shooting steel MORE dangerous, not less. You should also not have received splatter or ricochet more times than you can count on one hand, because that means your target is either poor quality/damaged, your target is set up improperly, or you're standing too close, or some combination of the three.

And besides, why the need to shoot steel, especially at close range, when you're not competing? I never understood the appeal.

Rifter, I don't want to be mean, but please reconsider your course of action. Softer bullets and lower power make shooting steel MORE dangerous, not less. You should also not have received splatter or ricochet more times than you can count on one hand, because that means your target is either poor quality/damaged, your target is set up improperly, or you're standing too close, or some combination of the three.

And besides, why the need to shoot steel, especially at close range, when you're not competing? I never understood the appeal.

I agree with your first tag, yes this really is a racist post. Also on the Fort Dix six...


The latest instance is the Fort Dix Six, who were evidently encouraged to be more violent by their FBI informant:

In November, it was the informer who volunteered that he might have a source who could provide the machine guns and heavier arms the men had long been talking about.

“Shnewer expressed interest,” the complaint says.

By early this year, the complaint asserts, the informer accompanied the men to a shooting range in the Poconos, and later practiced assault maneuvers with them using paintball guns. During those exercises, the suspects mused about obtaining explosives and whether to attack a warship when it was docked in Philadelphia.

Peee-ueew. Henry Rollins? C'mon dude, you've been trying the 'angry-yelling-tattooed-observations with a touch of humour' for a _tad_ too long. They weren't good then, and now they're just deparate sounding. "Please pay attention long enough for me to finish this psuedo-intellectual rant so I can pump my arms at the end..." What a wanna-be badboy. Go drive your Hummer with middle-eastern gas to the shooting range that taught you how to fire your collectible .50 cal. Afterwards we'll go get some tattoos! Yeah! How frickin' cool!
He wouldn't last a second in any war.

OMFG...

HST should have been given a show where he has different guests on and they go to the shooting range and drink whiskey. That was wildly entertaining.

The Alfred like butler dude was the kicker.

this is a swiss air force super puma (cougar) transport helicopter. the video is related to the "shooting range for jet fighter" videos:
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=7524
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=7532

i'm inclined to yell 'fake!', as even morons at a shooting range know that you shouldn't do this...
why in hell was he holding it up instead of propping it up? or for that matter, holding it in front of him instead of a foot from his oh-so-fragile skull??

recoil is not funny. when at the army, the guy next to me at the shooting range lost his eyesight due to recoil of his 7.62x51

absolutely no vote