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Babymech says...

Why not submit the original videos? Do we need the third-rate David Attenboroughs and their voice-overs? I think I can point and laugh at her on her own for being childishly hyperbolic, but with the condescending voice-over, meme-pics, and the schoolyard Nazi comparisons, it's not as funny...

enoch said:

gentlemen! lets see some votes here please.the world needs to be exposed to this womans planned eugenics.

or simply....with no votes this video will never see the front page,and then the food fascists will have won.

this MUST be exposed!
so we can all point and laugh.
and isnt that something we can all enjoy?
ridiculing the insane?

Israeli crowd cheers with joy as missile hits Gaza on CNN

Asmo says...

They may be rare (I doubt it), but last time I checked, Israel is a democracy. The people keep voting in people who aggressively attack and expand in to what little is left to the Palestinians. Standing by and pleading ignorance is not good enough.

I did not call Israel the 4th Reich, I said the 4th Reich is alive and well in Israel. I'm sure not every person cheered on the Nazi's either, but we don't really make that distinction often when talking about the 3rd Reich because it led, and most people either followed or allowed it to lead. The fact that Palestine, a country in name only, is basically the largest concentration camp in the world strikes a disturbing parallel.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with a hell of a lot of what you say in your post, and you seem to be a reasonable and grounded person when it comes to this topic, but Israel has constantly held the upper hand since it's inception, backed by even bigger friends. If it were two kids in the schoolyard, we'd call em out for exactly what they are, a bully, and a cowardly one at that.

shveddy said:

There is no doubt that these people are disgusting, but thankfully they are also rare. Every society has their fringe crazies - the US has Westboro Baptist Church, for instance - and they generally get way more attention than they deserve by being controversial.

This isn't to say that there isn't a problem with Israeli society's attitude toward the Palestinians, it's just to say that I think it is a problem that is far more subtle and widespread. Focusing so much attention on a small percentage of religious fanatics can be important because it does represent a movement and ideology that is problematic, but it has very little direct relevance to the current conflict.

The real problem, in my opinion, is a unique mixture of nationalism and a lopsided insulation from the reality of the conflict that is very common in Israeli society.

Israeli society is uniquely coherent in a particular way that stems from the relatively homogenous cultural identity facilitated by Judaism, and this coherence is also strengthened by the fact that Israeli society was built in the face of and as a direct result of considerable adversity. I think that this does allow for a sort of groupthink that inhibits Israel's ability to treat the Palestinians in a humane manner, but the effect manifests itself through society as a sort of cultural blindness and it manifests through the political process as hawkish policy.

(Also, whether or not you think they had the right to build that society in the first place is beside the point right now, I'm only talking about the existence of the unifying influence of adversity, and the effect it has on policy and the national psyche)

The other component of it is the simple fact that Israelis are extremely insulated from the realities of the Palestinian sufferings.

Even in the heat of a conflict like this, Israelis can pretty much go about their lives unimpeded. It is true that the rocket attacks are disruptive and that there is on a whole an unacceptably high level of danger from external attacks, but Israelis have leveraged a security apparatus that minimizes these realities in day to day life to an astounding degree, all things considered, and this fact is a double edge sword that creates a perfect breeding ground for indifference.

One side of the sword is that these measures are extremely effective at improving the lives of Israelis in the short term. However the other side of the sword is that it obviously makes these measures popular and politically successful. Furthermore, with all the calm and prosperity, it is very easy to forget about the abysmal conditions being imposed on 1.8 million people just thirty kilometers or so from your doorstep. The only time they really have to deal with the issue is when there is an inevitable flareup of violence at which point, naturally, people tend to be less empathetic. The rest of the time, during the lulls, the prospect of empathy is just placed on the back burner.

These are the tendencies that need to be addressed.

However calling Israel the 4th Reich and placing so much focus on youtube videos that give Israel's religious fanatics undue prominence is just as useless and destructive as all the Israelis and Israel sympathizers who insist on viewing Palestinian society as an unchanging, violent monolith that is accurately represented by its extremist elements.

The fact of the matter is that there are significant movements within Israeli society that are in fact attempting to change these trends. The same is true of Palestinian society, however it is more difficult for those movements because of the repressions imposed by Hamas, culture and environment.

If there is to be any hope in this situation, Israel's role as the dominant, occupying force means that they have the first move. They will have to shift from focusing on isolation and self-preservation to one of empathy to the average Palestinian, an empathy that is so strong that they must be willing to take considerable personal risks and let up their stranglehold on Palestinian society and allow them to prosper.

Because only then will the environment be in any way conducive for Palestinians to take considerable personal risks and defy the status quo en masse. Only then will the false succor of violent religious extremism loose its appeal.

Until that happens, we'll the cycle seems to return to square one every two or three years and I expect to have this discussion again sometime around 2017.

Unfortunately, it is going to be a hard and unlikely road because it takes a lot of empathy and effort to rise up and take huge risks during the times of quiet when prosperity and security easily distract from the continuing plight of the Palestinians. These aren't common traits. Humans are a very tribal species and we're not good at this kind of stuff when it concerns someone different who you don't have to interact with. This challenge is hardly unique to the Jews.

Louis CK: "Faggot"

siftbot says...

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Russian Woman Goes "Need For Speed" When Skoda Cuts Her Off.

shuac says...

Daily life in Russia must be magnificently boring if they require this kind of activity to balance out the day. It's very "schoolyard" type of behavior too: my dog's better than your dog, my dad can beat up your dad, etc. I have solemn pity for them.

Two Excellent Examples Of How Gun Control Can And Does Work

chingalera says...

I understand your flabbergast and I sense your sincerity, appreciated. As for the desired/elicited clarification with regard to what I was saying??...I didn't say shit, I posted a video in the wake of current-affairs having to do with guns and read your sound, valid, cogent, and passionate foray into the world as you would have it be interpreted or experienced....and then-You suggested that I was saying something.
Wasn't saying anything, merely tossing some chum out to check the regular rabble's response-time, and yours was the most long-winded and similar I decided to poke.

Yeah. Don't put words in mouths or infer, might make you seem like an insurgent...trouble-maker...Team-Player??

ChaosEngine??
Frame it. Bookmark it if it satisfy, your on the short list of reasonably consistent, snide, smug, comments regarding this particular subject you have a strong feeeling for, I can relate. If you can't get the jyst, the meat of what was written, simplycall me names, retarded, rude, hayseed....give a fuck. You took the bait and I'm on a boat.

"complete and utter lack of sense, the rambling, disjointed nature and the total failure to make anything approaching a coherent argument...blah, blah, schoolyard-shenannigans, BLAH
" NOTE: TO you sir: To you my words seem thus, to you and a vehement minority of folks. Perception is a motherfucker.

shveddy said:

Well I'm flabbergasted. I was trying to get people to stop down-voting your video, because I wanted your voice to be heard regardless of whether or not people disagree with you. And then I politely asked for clarification on what you were saying because I felt there might be a misunderstanding.

Now I just think more people should see you make an ass if yourself. Please get this video sifted, people.

*promote

Owen Jones deconstructs the Gaza situation on BBC's QT

messenger says...

I took the time to form some questions. All you've done, again, is try and find the weakest link, attack it, and ignore everything else as if you've destroyed my point. Just answer the questions and stop making me ask again and again. You can answer with caveats, like I did. You can answer by rewording the question or changing the terms. But answer the questions. BicycleRepairMan did it and I appreciate his direct, non-condescending answer, even if I don't agree. Why can't you?

In question 1, it seems you disagree with the use of the word "Palestine". Fine. Call them whatever you want. They're people. Whatever. Do you disagree with anything else in 1.?

2 and 3 are very simple Yes/No questions that go to the mindset of whatever you want to call the Muslim people who live in Gaza.

The last two questions relate to your using that video as evidence of something. I'm saying you can infer nothing about the "nobility" of their cause. They might even be the completely horrible bloodthirsty people bent only on killing for no reason whatsoever that you're painting them as, but that video wouldn't be the evidence for it. Just answer the questions. If your answer isn't the same as mine, that's OK. We're adults. This isn't a schoolyard. I'm not going to kick your lunchbox over the fence.

shinyblurry said:

Perhaps you've never studied the history of the region

...

Please research the history...

Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012

swedishfriend says...

Why is self defense or MMA about being a badass? Football is far more violent for example. Are people trying to look like a badass if they wear football related clothing? I don't fight for fun, I calm people down so they don't fight. You are imagining a whole story out of very little information when it comes to me and when it comes to people's fashion choices. It pays to get to know people rather than just assuming shit based on nothing.

(edit) PS. oh, and threatening people is against the law. That is where breaking the law comes in...

>> ^KnivesOut:

"Why is self defense or MMA about being a badass?" LOL look at these role models! And no, wearing football clothing isn't the same thing, because just wearing your team's jersey isn't a statement to the world that you might tackle them at any minute.
FWIW, I've seen my share of guido douchebags adorned in TAPOUT gear posturing like schoolyard bullies.
Going out in your TAPOUT hoodie is telling the world "I fight, so watch out for me." In my book, it's basically equivalent to putting martial arts patches on your jeans jacket in 1988.
So what's up, are you training to be a cage figher?>> ^swedishfriend:
Why is self defense or MMA about being a badass? Football is far more violent for example. Are people trying to look like a badass if they wear football related clothing? I don't fight for fun, I calm people down so they don't fight. You are imagining a whole story out of very little information when it comes to me and when it comes to people's fashion choices. It pays to get to know people rather than just assuming shit based on nothing.
(edit) PS. oh, and threatening people is against the law. That is where breaking the law comes in...


Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012

KnivesOut says...

"Why is self defense or MMA about being a badass?" LOL look at these role models! And no, wearing football clothing isn't the same thing, because just wearing your team's jersey isn't a statement to the world that you might tackle them at any minute.

FWIW, I've seen my share of guido douchebags adorned in TAPOUT gear posturing like schoolyard bullies.

Going out in your TAPOUT hoodie is telling the world "I fight, so watch out for me." In my book, it's basically equivalent to putting martial arts patches on your jeans jacket in 1988.

So what's up, are you training to be a cage figher?>> ^swedishfriend:

Why is self defense or MMA about being a badass? Football is far more violent for example. Are people trying to look like a badass if they wear football related clothing? I don't fight for fun, I calm people down so they don't fight. You are imagining a whole story out of very little information when it comes to me and when it comes to people's fashion choices. It pays to get to know people rather than just assuming shit based on nothing.
(edit) PS. oh, and threatening people is against the law. That is where breaking the law comes in...


Ted - Restricted Trailer (NSFW)

conan says...

>> ^Locque:

>> ^Ryjkyj:
>> ^kymbos:
Yeah, if you're raising awareness you might need to post a link to a more coherent description. Did Marky Mark assault someone?>> ^Locque:
>> ^conan:
Yes. The racist fucker you beats people half to death, then goes to jail two days for it and then living his life being convinced he'd "payed for his mistakes" and that telling folks he hasn't have a problem finding sleep. Fuck him.
Yes i repeat myself on that topic but i have the feeling raising awareness is the least thing i can do, even if it's of no use.

Wait...what? Did I miss something?


Yup.

I genuinely don't believe in holding something against him for what happened in another lifetime- don't get me wrong, I'm no Marky Mark fan at all, but that stuff is ancient history and neither of us know him. He might still be a shitbag, but he could be a saint. None of us are privy to his private life really, or who he is as a person. If it had happened say, in 2006, maybe then it would seem more relevant, but nothing about his life or character now seems to resemble what it was then. To be honest, pronouncing doom on him for something he did when he was 16 makes one look pretty bad in my eyes. Having said that, I dunno, maybe he is still the same unrepentant racist douchebag. But I have considerable reason to doubt.


In my view of the world there are things that can be forgiven or forgotten, but being a racist dickhead and assaulting others (this is not schoolyard beating we're talking about) are not among those things. But it seems you just have to be a) president or b) actor / singer or c) a stupid white self-proclaimed neighborhood watch guy and suddenly the otherwise strict moral codes of US culture don't apply to you ;-)

Cheeky, but clever, McDonalds advert

Sagemind says...

Ya, I think the whole schoolyard bully angle is the right way to deflect this commercial.
The problem is wondering if that's what they want us to do. As a parent, I'd want to comment to my child about the bullying aspect and discuss it, but in doing so, I've played right into their hands and am now discussing a McDonald's commercial with my child, impregnating the french fries into our sub-conscious.

The joke's on them though, I'd go to Burger King!
Actually, no, I go to this new place that just opened up called "Five Guys Burgers & Fries."
All hamburgers are double pattied and $3 gets you enough fresh cut fries to feed a family of four. And while you wait for your meal, non stop, all you can eat, salted peanuts in the shell. YUM!
http://www.fiveguys.com

tim wise on the word nigger-nigga

packo says...

the sad fact is independant of the word's use in history, independant of the color of the person using the word... the fact that you segregate the discussion into a white camp and a black camp perpetuates the words power and racism itself

the only hope for the defeat of racism and the death of the power of words like this is when people grow up and realize there isn't a them and us camp... and acknowledging those camps is just as racist as using the term in a hateful manner

tippy-toes and affirmative action will never lead to true equality... just the illusion of it

get butthurt by that fact all you want

but the way it is right now, with all this pc crap, and thrusting reponsibility from the past into the present's lap... my children and your children will never know a world where that word is as harmless as the next word

because honestly... the only power a word, and language itself have... are the power we attribute it

not an easy goal to obtain, but his point is counterproductive to ever actually obtaining equality... and infact i found his points to more aimed to get a reaction than actually thought out.... would love to see the opposing viewpoint of this if possible

and the 8yr old schoolyard rules of i can talk about my mom, but you can't... yeah, reducing ourselves to infantile reactions is what will propel us ahead... if you can't see something wrong with the whole concept of i can talk about my mom but you can't... introduce the mom standing there listening to her son/daughter talking about her

Koch Brothers lackey Peter Schiff gets schooled by OWS

Jinx says...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^Jinx:
I dont think he got schooled at all. Well, unless you think ad homs are cool.

He talked, and acted, like a fool--he got called a fool.
Petey tried to control the conversation with talking points--he couldn't.
Schooled.

No sorry. Talking points or not he did still make points. Points that could have been deconstructed and debated. Instead we got some guy calling him an idiot, which true as it may be is probably something any of us could do on our worst days. So no, he wasn't schooled. He is an idiot though and I would like him to get properly destroyed by a real argument, and not just this schoolyard shit.

Oh wait. I suppose in that sense he was "schooled". GODDAMN I'M WITTY.

Jake Tapper grills Jay Carney on al-Awlaki assassination

Yogi says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Of course you need to resort to threats of violence. Logic and reason are locked doors to you, ninnyhammer.
Is this what the lefties are talking about by "death by drone," your droning on and on between schoolyard insults?
Even you probably know threats = banned. I won't consider sending this little exchange to dag, as I don't consider you at all.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
You'd save wear on your keyboard (and the weariness we suffer at your juvenile growing pains) by simply typing the old liberal creed: Free speech for me, but not for thee.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
No one is harder on Prez Soetoro than me and I think his sanctioned removal of another turbaned anus from the planet is just wonderful. There are plenty of American citizens who are enemies of legitimate American government, such as the entire taxocrat party.
Just kidding.
On a more serious note, His Earness never takes the killing of his fellow Muslim brothers lightly.
(Just kidding, he's a closet atheist).

If I blow out the back of your skull because I "think" you're a threat to the country with all your Obama bashing...
nevermind I have nothing further to add except my creepy smile


It's not growing pains I'm 28. I'm merely saying that I think you should be shot in the head. Also me saying that you should be shot in the head and your brains blown out isn't me impeding your free speech. Say what you want...I'll continue to dream about you being shot in the head.
Also you must be a moron because you couldn't get what I was saying with my comment. It was quite simple, you fucking moron.



At no point did I threaten violence...did you fail reading comprehension as well?

Jake Tapper grills Jay Carney on al-Awlaki assassination

quantumushroom says...

Of course you need to resort to threats of violence. Logic and reason are locked doors to you, ninnyhammer.

Is this what the lefties are talking about by "death by drone," your droning on and on between schoolyard insults?

Even you probably know threats = banned. I won't consider sending this little exchange to dag, as I don't consider you at all.


>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
You'd save wear on your keyboard (and the weariness we suffer at your juvenile growing pains) by simply typing the old liberal creed: Free speech for me, but not for thee.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
No one is harder on Prez Soetoro than me and I think his sanctioned removal of another turbaned anus from the planet is just wonderful. There are plenty of American citizens who are enemies of legitimate American government, such as the entire taxocrat party.
Just kidding.
On a more serious note, His Earness never takes the killing of his fellow Muslim brothers lightly.
(Just kidding, he's a closet atheist).

If I blow out the back of your skull because I "think" you're a threat to the country with all your Obama bashing...
nevermind I have nothing further to add except my creepy smile


It's not growing pains I'm 28. I'm merely saying that I think you should be shot in the head. Also me saying that you should be shot in the head and your brains blown out isn't me impeding your free speech. Say what you want...I'll continue to dream about you being shot in the head.
Also you must be a moron because you couldn't get what I was saying with my comment. It was quite simple, you fucking moron.

When the President can kill whoever he wants.

Yogi says...

>> ^srd:

Nice video, however the spin you're trying to give it doesn't quite fit. The US has been acting like an international schoolyard bully for a very, very long time now. So whats different now that causes all the outrage? That it's starting to bully its own people? That it's "Number One!" in political assassinations with non-human mediators?
Ron Paul put it nicely in that clip, when he said in so many words "at least we've tried to keep it a secret before". I wonder if you can name one administration of the past 60 years that didn't engage in these tactics.


Yes this is true...do our crimes get "Grandfathered" in then? I mean do we get to commit them just because the previous people who lived here did? Because we're gonna have a lot of genocides if that is the case.

People should be honest about history but they should also change the present.



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