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400ft Tall Halloween Light and Drone Show

BSR says...

At the very least, you and me and 1,279,211 other viewers so far. It could have been all just for the creators self satisfaction. Who needs neighbors anyway.

newtboy said:

….but since he is neighborless who is this for?

Viral How Much Did Your Divorce Cost

oblio70 says...

So much failure at being a human being re-framed as “it’s your fault I suck”.

Thinking marriage is supposed to be a zero-sum game exposes your flawed intellect by defining it in terms of $, status, self-satisfaction...

No surprise you don’t “get it”.

I vent because I just became widowed 1 month ago and I was not even close to prepared to be ripped apart. If you expect to be whole as an individual in marriage, then you deserve to be thoroughly stomped by your former partner. Keep on whining!

Something went terribly wrong with this ship's controls

TheFreak says...

When I first saw all those people without health insurance crashing into the dock I was horrified. But then as the concrete ripped through the hull of thousands of people working for an unlivable minimum wage, I felt a little bit of satisfaction. Anyway, you can be sure that monument to forced overtime without compensation is insured and if there are any remaining costs, they can be covered by suspending pay raises and bonuses for another year.

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Covid Scientist Arrested For Honest Evaluation Of Florida

BSR says...

So it really boils down to people fearing people. What do you call that?

Your best revenge now is to move on and never give someone the satisfaction of watching you suffer.

bobknight33 said:

When governments fear the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny

Cart Narcs Catch A Dumb Hag

newtboy says...

Fine, forgive, don't excuse, condone, or allow the horrid behavior.

If you forgive and they repeat, and you forgive again, you excuse condone and allow.

Edit: if I could take a hundred with me, I might self imolate with pride and satisfaction, and a feeling that my life finally had meaning and value. I'm far too afraid of prison to pull the trigger on anyone though.

BSR said:

No need tell anyone about their mistakes. Mistakes correct themselves. For instance I thought loving someone was the right thing to do.

Then one day I lost someone I loved. It was the worst and most fearful point in my life. I felt that somehow I had the wrong idea about love and I was the only one who didn't get the message. The grief was terrible. Almost inescapable. I was stuck inside my own little world. If I had a gun I would have put it to my head and pulled the trigger. Luckily I had no gun but I did have a little more time to suffer over a decision.

Do I continue to love knowing the pain and nightmare of grief?

What do you think my choice was?

EDIT: Actually, you don't help by not forgiving inappropriate behavior. Forgiving is not condoning. It's really more of an exercise to keep from pulling the trigger or setting yourself on fire.

Your death has nothing to do with you and everything to do with those that love you.

Where Are These "Good Cops" I Hear About?

newtboy says...

You asked how we differed. I answered.

It's not about punishment or my satisfaction, it's about justice and public safety, and setting a good public precedent, a shining example for others considering following his path.

Living with what they've done as a punishment or justice implies everyone has a conscience. That's clearly not the case.

The only way to remove the danger here is permanently, since he gets special cop treatment, only 5 years for a life sentence worth of crime, less with parole, that means one thing.
That's not punishment, it's harsh reality.

BSR said:

This is not about what he seeks or doesn't seek. It's about the false satisfaction you may feel about harming or killing another person as punishment.

I don't think people "deserve" to die because that's already written into the program for all of us. I do think people should live with what they've done.

I would not hesitate to kill someone or give my life if it was my only choice to save a life or relieve the pain of a leg cramp. I look at it from a "First Aid" point of view. If you can't remove the victim from the danger, remove the danger from the victim.

Once the danger is eliminated or contained, punishment teaches nothing except to respect or fear that which can kick your ass. Which, after all was the goal to begin with in this case. Punishment is only meant for the pleasure of the punisher. Nothing more.

Killing someone as a form of punishment only makes you a killer. If that's your dream then you are in the right place to do it. But I think there are better dreams to be had. Don't dream it, be it.

Where Are These "Good Cops" I Hear About?

BSR says...

This is not about what he seeks or doesn't seek. It's about the false satisfaction you may feel about harming or killing another person as punishment.

I don't think people "deserve" to die because that's already written into the program for all of us. I do think people should live with what they've done.

I would not hesitate to kill someone or give my life if it was my only choice to save a life or relieve the pain of a leg cramp. I look at it from a "First Aid" point of view. If you can't remove the victim from the danger, remove the danger from the victim.

Once the danger is eliminated or contained, punishment teaches nothing except to respect or fear that which can kick your ass. Which, after all was the goal to begin with in this case. Punishment is only meant for the pleasure of the punisher. Nothing more.

Killing someone as a form of punishment only makes you a killer. If that's your dream then you are in the right place to do it. But I think there are better dreams to be had. Don't dream it, be it.

newtboy said:

He seeks neither equality nor justice, he seeks self enrichment and satisfaction at other's expense.
If you don't think some people deserve to die, we disagree.

Where Are These "Good Cops" I Hear About?

newtboy says...

He seeks neither equality nor justice, he seeks self enrichment and satisfaction at other's expense.
If you don't think some people deserve to die, we disagree.

BSR said:

Yes, I know. That's the problem.

EDIT: If equal justice gives you satisfaction, how does that make you different from him?

Where Are These "Good Cops" I Hear About?

BSR says...

Yes, I know. That's the problem.

EDIT: If equal justice gives you satisfaction, how does that make you different from him?

newtboy said:

I've only suggested it's justifiable, even justice in some cases.

Doctors Urge Americans: GO VEGAN!

ChaosEngine jokingly says...

I'm level 7.... I have violated the laws of thermodynamics and exist in a perpetual motion state powered only by my own smug sense of self-satisfaction.

Mordhaus said:

I myself am a level 6 Vegan, I now only require sunlight to sustain myself. No food, no water, just Prana from the miraculous rays of the Sun.

The Check In: Betsy DeVos' Rollback of Civil Rights

newtboy says...

1) Yes, but that's much more easily said than done, and many people disagree too. I feel that it's far cheaper to pay to educate other people's children (I have none) and have them become far more productive citizens than it is to insist (despite all evidence to the contrary) that hard work overcomes all obstacles, and everyone is capable of doing the work required for success. This theory removes responsibility to help others and puts blame squarely on those who've failed. Convenient, but just wrong.

2) In a vacuum, that makes sense, but not in real life. The refusal to acknowledge the disparities in opportunity to prepare for that singular performance is where the racism lies.
It's actually illegal to use just race over performance merit in most places as I understand it. Ethnicity/gender are usually only one small part of the equation. If they could be replaced with a numerical opportunity score, used to modify performance scores,
I would support that, but good luck figuring that one out to anyone's satisfaction.

3) Yes, people always resent being forced from a position of power. I do think it's important to constantly revisit the issue to insure policy doesn't foster inequities, particularly since that's the point of the policies, eradicating inequities.

4) Predicting the naive would be suckered by a professional con man telling them platitudes, sure, but predicting so many of the educated would go along for short sighted, purely tribal reasoning, that's tougher.

5) Certain groups of people have been claiming white men are the downtrodden powerless whipping boys since the 60's. It's getting closer to true, but we aren't near there yet, it just seems that way to those less socially powerful than their fathers. Sure, there are outliers where the white male gets the shaft due to race, but we still come out well ahead in the balance by any objective set of criteria..

bcglorf said:

1)Surely the solution should rather be to fix the real problem of unequal opportunity in primary education?

2) Even given disagreement on this, surely the left(you?) can acknowledge that reasonable good minded people could disagree? Surely it's an over-reaction to call people racist for believing that choosing students based upon performance and not race is a good thing? One has to acknowledge that the counter example, of using race before merit as a selection criteria is in fact the very definition of racism?

More importantly to the Democratic party though, allow me to gift them moral justice and rightness on the issue.
3) Even given that, practicality dictates that spending many years with a policies that choose certain people over more qualified others based upon race will create tensions. If you made that policy against say whites, or males, they might develop resentment.
4) One might predict that they may even vote against those imposing that policy, arguably even willingly voting for a kind of racist orange haired loud mouth that they hope will end the policy discriminating against them based upon their race.

5) You might even argue it's starting to happen already...

Millennials in the Workforce, A Generation of Weakness

MilkmanDan says...

That was quite good.

But man, that 4th issue is a doozy. Learning that "hard work pays off" is difficult when it just really doesn't, at least not anymore. Massive income inequality, zero class mobility, and on and on. We feel like relatively easily replaceable cogs in a relatively pointless machine because WE ARE.

We hear lots of stories about people that manage to buy in, feel like they are doing something important and making a real impact, enjoy some period of good job satisfaction...

...and then all too often, they end up looking like saps when the company that they work for gets bought out by some massive faceless corporation that doesn't value their years of loyal service at all, at which point they get replaced by A) a robot, B) an outsourced sweatshop laborer in a 3rd world country that can be payed a fraction of the local rate, C) a younger and more compliant hire that will inevitably have a massive turnover rate, but who cares because there are plenty more where that came from, or D) the cokehead nephew of the new CEO that needs a job to keep him out of trouble, and hey, might as well keep things in the family, right?

Maybe I'm just a bitter, late Gen-X'er.

How the Alt-Right Trolls

greatgooglymoogly says...

When somebody spouts off with a lie, you don't let them get on a tangent, even if it's another lie you want to shout down. Keep hammering on the first lie, ask for proof, evidence, even a progression of reasoning. Them being completely unable to supply any of those gives you satisfaction and shows everyone else reading how empty the original argument was.

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