No shit!-There's gotta be at least 10 examples of Dawkins arguing the case for his camp with non-non-believers here on the sift-Goddamn, Amy Goodman!!...Please do something with that mop of starving peasant hairdo you rock like you never cared...Jeeeez!..and maybe a sprinkle of cosmetics and better posture?? She has that, "Slept in My Clothes" look goin' alla time too, innit??!

Unless things change DRAMATICALLY, the US economy is fucked. Royally, utterly, totally, devastatingly fucked. And the rest of the world with it.

Rich pricks raping the treasury at the expense of the middle class......middle class? hah..whats that? There are only the haves, and have nots...If you dont have, you best be cleaning my toilets, or trimming the hedges in my garden, cause thats all you peasants are worth.

Fucking disgusting.

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>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^gwiz665:
Speak for yourself, peasant. I benched like 50 kgs the other day. Bro, do you even lift?
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
Most of us will never be great men or women, most of us will never be recognised for any special achievement...

Well, obviously you are the exception

That's a nice theory and all about tuition is high only because of government involvement. Let's ignore the fact that it takes two. It takes government grants to assist those in need, and it takes the colleges to say "well fuck it then, let's just keep raising prices then if government is going to help out"

Schiff seems to forget that a lot since he made the same argument about wall street. Wall street keeps doing bad things, but it's the government's fault for not stopping them. Maybe if wall street stopped doing bad things, the government wouldn't need to stop them.

It takes two. But one organization is trying to help, the other organization is just trying to get away with having more money. So you tell me which one is worse. If a criminal has a gun to your head and says he will shoot you if you don't do X. If you refuse to do X and the criminal shoots you, who's fault is it? Yeah it's the fault of the fucking criminal with the gun to your head!!

The idea of removing government grants to education would have the effect of lowering tuition costs actually is something I might support. It's a sound idea. Problem is, what do you do in the meantime while you're waiting for the effects of supply and demand to kick in. Government pulls its money from higher education, and supposedly colleges will be forced to lower prices since much fewer people will be able to attend. Stuff like that doesn't happen over night, you're going to have a large gap where a ton of people will not be able to go to college for a significant period of time. What do you do about that?

I quite honestly don't think it will work. Colleges originally never had government support and did they lower prices to let the peasants in back then? Nope. Colleges were the home to the rich and the affluent. If you like the idea of only the rich getting an education, then proceed. If you like the idea that wealth shouldn't be a factor in education, then we need a better answer.

>> ^shinyblurry:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^shinyblurry:
It's no wonder liberals are melting down; President Obama couldn't have done worse last night. It was pretty shocking. I personally didn't expect Governor Romney to do very well. To my surprise, he looked way more presidential than the President did. The fact is that President Obama has been in a bubble the last four years, and I think this was an the emperor has no clothes moment. The press certainly hasn't done him any favors by coddling him and throwing him softball questions this entire time. He's never had to justify himself or his policies to anyone and this was a day of reckoning for him.
I also think this one debate has undone all of the negative advertising about Governor Romney that had come before it. The reason being is that he didn't even remotely resemble the person Democrats have been trying to define him as. People got to seem him unfiltered and unedited by the mainstream press, and he came across as a strong and competent leader who cares about them and has the skills and experience to be the President. I expect there will be more fireworks at the next debate.

Apparently we weren't watching the same debate. What I saw was two candidates talking about essentially the exact same policies. They were both Center Right...and one was more smiley and UP. So does the smiley guy win it for being smiley?
Whatever, they've still got a couple more "Games" left and when all is said and done whomever wins won't implement whatever ideas they expressed during the debates anyways. GOOD Game all! GO TEAM GO!!!

I think the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives in policy is that liberals want government to be their God. There were definitely differences between the two candidates on that specific topic. I don't subscribe to the team mentality; I cannot in good conscience vote for either candidate. I think America is getting the leaders it deserves, and these two candidates are a reflection of that. You reap what you sow.


That depends entirely on what you mean by "America". If you mean the American people, they didn't get together and make policies for these candidates to stick their names to, these candidates said vote for me and maybe I'll give you something. Now if by "America" you mean the elite, the people with the money who bascially dictate how society will run than I agree these candidates were chosen by them. The PR industry now gets to fight it out, and it's completely undemocratic. Even in Bolivia poor peasant farmers worked for a more democratic system and they got it, but that didn't stop them they kept at it.

Both these candidates will say whatever they want to get elected, and then they'll do whatever their masters who paid for them to get there want. That's how our "Democracy" works.

Also if you think Obama was a "Liberal" than you really have no idea what that means. If Obama was what we traditionally called "Liberal" who would've at least brought up or tried to reinstitute the Glass-Steagall act.

But Webb do you think about the peasants America slaughtered in the millions?

>> ^Kofi:

What choice did liberals have, really? Obama or ......


...actual organization. It really is pathetic with all the disillusionment and the privileges we have in this country that we can't organize better than Columbian peasant farmers. As much as I don't like the Right in this country and the Rich, I fucking hate the Left, bunch of Yuppie hipster pussies that whine and complain but don't do shit. Occupy is the future, they need more support and direction. Step up or shut up Lefties.

Those peasants can be pig-headed when it comes to the law.

The peasants are revolting!

I spent years waiting for a "History of the World Part II". Never happened.

Funny, the only thing I could think of was that Cenk looked like my two year old having a fit because I won't let her have another graham cracker.

>> ^TheDreamingDragon:

I watched this video,and all I could do was imagine a different setting.
Cenk dressed as a peasant shouting up at some silk clad bejeweled Lord smirking at this comic farce of a discussion. The Lord sips his wine,and sighs as the serf rages on,because he knows that the wall seperating them is high,and the swords guarding the Lord are sharp. The Lord is indulgent,amused,and a few empty words will dismiss this minor irritation to a near perfect day. The senator smirks,because he knows nothing will be done and he can go about his business lining his pockets with whatever scorn is heaped on him,since all it really is to him is empty air.
Lords and serfs. Perpetuating this illusion of a democratic process. When the serfs Occupy someplace embarassingly public,the Lords send the Swords to cut them down.

I watched this video,and all I could do was imagine a different setting.

Cenk dressed as a peasant shouting up at some silk clad bejeweled Lord smirking at this comic farce of a discussion. The Lord sips his wine,and sighs as the serf rages on,because he knows that the wall seperating them is high,and the swords guarding the Lord are sharp. The Lord is indulgent,amused,and a few empty words will dismiss this minor irritation to a near perfect day. The senator smirks,because he knows nothing will be done and he can go about his business lining his pockets with whatever scorn is heaped on him,since all it really is to him is empty air.

Lords and serfs. Perpetuating this illusion of a democratic process. When the serfs Occupy someplace embarassingly public,the Lords send the Swords to cut them down.

This is a question of philosophy. The inheritees on the right are TERRIFIED of having their kids up against a huge load of educated peers. The entire notion of elite private schools is so you KNOW who will be running your country in 50 years (and it's someone you know/are related to/owes you something).

In Britain 90% of judges come from 2 schools. The current government (PM, Chancellor, Mayor of London, heads of banks) were in a club together at the age of 20 for obscenely rich 5th+ generation inheritees, where they would have a luxury dinner then smash the restaurant up and drop a few thousand for the peasants to clean up after them.

While a state is in the grip of true evil like that, all you can hope for is screaming obfuscation from right wing mouthpieces like the Fox mercenaries, half the Senate and our very own QM, and nothing *NOTHING* will change.


>> ^Trancecoach:

The educational system in this country is in dire need of revision. Corruption and antebellum notions from an industrial era has turned public school into nothing short of a clusterfuck.

Two different games. See http://www.xcom.com/
>> ^VoodooV:

Wow. this has changed a lot last time I saw it. I thought they were remaking it into a shooter set in the 50s or something...what happened to that? Did the peasants revolt and let them know that was a bad idea?