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Vermont Becomes The First State To Pass Wolf PAC Resolution

VoodooV says...

You're not wrong. I'm actually glad I live in Nebraska, it's right wing obviously, but it's not total nutbag like the south. The Republicans in Nebraska did lose their shit in 2008 when the Omaha district voted for Obama and they tried to go back to winner take all. But I think cooler heads prevailed as if trends continue, urban populations will outstrip the rural areas and more traditionally red States start turning blue. At least in a split vote system, even if the state goes blue, the right still retains a minority voice instead of no voice. I had been following wolf pac but hearing about this makes me want to be a member now

Payback said:

You're needed in the less progressive ones.

Vermont Becomes The First State To Pass Wolf PAC Resolution

My_design says...

First, thank you for the explanation and not the typical rant I might get form others on the sift...
I can understand what you're saying. It makes sense. It just seems to me that in certain states, Unions have been able to run the Government for quite some time (to the state's and their members detriment) and now that they have competition they are complaining. But that may not be the case, it just seems that way to me.

Further, we seem to be going off the assumption that PAC's are all conservative or that all Unions are liberal, are there are liberal PACs or conservative unions?

Payback said:

Unions = large groups of people, pooling small amounts of money into large ones.

PACs = tiny groups of people, pooling large amounts of money into huge ones.

Why should 2 or 3 billionaires have a bigger voice than 100,000,000 unionized workers?

...and I don't like unions, but I have to side with them on this.

Vermont Becomes The First State To Pass Wolf PAC Resolution

Payback says...

Unions = large groups of people, pooling small amounts of money into large ones.

PACs = tiny groups of people, pooling large amounts of money into huge ones.

Why should 2 or 3 billionaires have a bigger voice than 100,000,000 unionized workers?

...and I don't like unions, but I have to side with them on this.

My_design said:

Can someone explain to me why...
PAC's are bad, bad, evil things supported by companies that use their money to influence politicians to get their way - destroy the environment, screw over employees and in general try to generate as much revenue as possible, but Unions are good groups that exert control over a ton of votes and money that they donate to politicians who in turn award them with generous pensions and benefits that bankrupt the State. So why don't we get Unions out of elections as well as PACs? Look at all the commercials during election seasons that are sponsored by the Teachers Union, Police Union, Firefighters Union, Ditch Diggers Union, on and on and on. Its to the point where the PAC and the Union commercials have become a blur.

Vermont Becomes The First State To Pass Wolf PAC Resolution

My_design says...

Can someone explain to me why...
PAC's are bad, bad, evil things supported by companies that use their money to influence politicians to get their way - destroy the environment, screw over employees and in general try to generate as much revenue as possible, but Unions are good groups that exert control over a ton of votes and money that they donate to politicians who in turn award them with generous pensions and benefits that bankrupt the State. So why don't we get Unions out of elections as well as PACs? Look at all the commercials during election seasons that are sponsored by the Teachers Union, Police Union, Firefighters Union, Ditch Diggers Union, on and on and on. Its to the point where the PAC and the Union commercials have become a blur.

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Vermont Becomes The First State To Pass Wolf PAC Resolution

Januari says...

Really sad we can't get something like this sifted. Some people shoot their mouths off and spend enormous amounts of time, constantly whining about 'the system'. Always find myself wondering what they are prepared to do about it beyond internet rage. Imagine if everyone who did went and signed up to volunteer or started calling their state senators on their own!

http://www.wolf-pac.com/

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Top 20 Arcade Games 1975 to 1979 - MAMECADE

Sagemind says...

Top Games I remember (in no specific order)

Galaga
Defender
Stargate (Defender)
Tac Scan
Tempest
Tron
Pac Man
Missile Command
Dig Dug
Joust
Journey (yes, based after the Band)
Centipede
Pengo
Gauntlet
Lunar Lander

Moyers | P. Krugman on how the US is becoming an oligarchy

Jay Z on 2Pac

LA Newsroom's earthquake reaction

chingalera says...

Follow the money for the magnitude of reaction. Santa Monica, Westwood, populated by rich folks-one reason. Also, the location of the epicenter and recent infrequency in the same area, factors stack-up for worry when this could evidence a pre-trem for more to follow. Let it happen in bumfuck and see how little news it makes. PAC-Rim may go in your lifetimes naysayers, pack a go-baggy.

Obamacre Navigators Exposed Coaching Applicants to Lie

aaronfr says...

So, someone went into an 'navigators' office looking for help getting health insurance. Then he confessed that he had been cheating on his taxes. The navigator advised him that the forms he was filling out would be sent to the IRS. They also advised him that unless he was ready to deal with consequences of his initial lie, he should maintain it.

Also, there is a controversy because some old lady thinks a group is part of the DNC. Oh, and a 501(c)3 is working with a PAC. Which is only allowable under certain conditions. Which O'Keefe fails to tell us and fails to show how those rules are being broken here. Instead he chooses to insinuate that a PAC which has a political strategy is somehow nefarious because they are implementing that strategy.

Ghostery: Knowledge + Control = Privacy

ant jokingly says...

So this relative pizza places are related as a branch? That's OK then. If they were competitors, then I would be worried!

Also, did Pac/Puck-Man eat a power pollet to make that ghost blue (why happy too?)

Lawrence O'Donnell - What Constitution says about treason

JustSaying says...

You really don't have to go back that far. Try the late 80's.
Can you imagine what the StaSi of East Germany could have done with the kind of access the NSA has? They couldn't even dream of that shit.
George Orwell must feel pretty stupid now.

Snowden isn't a hero but he certainly deserves some applause. He did exactly the right thing, he did what I'd expect from somebody who fights for freedom. You know, like the people living in the land of the free.

And regarding O'Donnell's point, he's absolutely right. Somebody in a position like Boehner should know his language better and choose it more appropiately. Unfortunately, Boehner would wipe his butt with the constitution if you'd give him enough Super PAC money.

dannym3141 said:

If a german soldier had stood against the system in WW2, we'd have called that soldier a hero.

Ten Richest People in the World

direpickle says...

Think of dollars as score points and life as Pac Man. Whoever has the most points at the end wins.

ChaosEngine said:

In NZ, there is a mentality among small business owners referred to as "Boat, bach and BMW". Essentially it states that once kiwi business people make enough money to have a boat, a bach (kiwi slang) and a BMW, they lose interest in expanding their business any further.

The government, lobby groups, economic "think tanks" and so on are always complaining about this.

My response has always been "why?". If I had enough money to live comfortably and buy the little luxuries I want, why on earth would I keep working myself to the bone?

I know some people work because they love what they do and that's cool, but working just so you can have another million or billion or whatever? What's the point?

Mazda Scandal Booth - The IRS - Trevor Potter



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