>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Teaching not difficult or stressful? Teachers don't need to bring their "A" game?
When I call you clueless in the next sentence, please don't take it as 'anti-social sniping', take it as a simple statement of fact.
You are clueless on seemingly every facet of the topic of education. I've done much teaching in my life: public high school, college ensembles, private lessons, section coaching, master classes, summer camps and substitute teaching. Speaking from experience, some of those jobs are easy, but there is nothing easy about public K-12 teaching. If you don't bring your "A" game, you will be eaten alive by students, administrators and parents (in that order). Teaching is actually more difficult for bad teachers, which is why 50% of teachers quit within the first 5 years of their career. I don't imagine business intimidates that many MBAs away from the profession.
My dad was a business man as well as a teacher, so I won't dispute that running a business is also difficult.
Let's be honest, this 'good intellectual debate' is neither good nor intellectual, and it's hardly even a debate.


It's shit like this, DFT. (emphasis added below)

That aside, being an educator is a noble profession. Certainly like any job if you care you make it more difficult for yourself - if you don't then you make it easier. But being a salary employee isn't even in the same ballpark as owning and worrying about your own business. There's very little risk in clocking into a teaching job. And yes grading papers over a TV dinner is probably not fun, but stressful? Nay.

Seeing how you gave your own circumstantial evidence, I'd like to do that as well. My high school teachers were largely a joke. Ms. Williams was a rather large lady who taught my junior and senior year English. She started both years telling us how much she despised teaching grammar, so she didn't teach it. She promised we'd watch lots of videos though, and we did. Terrible waste of time.

It took Mr. Wright nearly a year to teach us the fundamentals of writing a check and balancing our checkbook. He spent ten minutes in class every day, then assigned us busy work while he left for the rest of the period to smoke in the teacher's lounge. True story.

Mr. Amos never taught us anything in our Marketing class. He was in the classroom maybe an eighth of the year, and we didn't do a single lesson plan except when there was a substitute teacher. Mr. Dismuke was quite brilliant as a Mathematician. But his oratory skills were as engaging as a 1960s robot, and most kids barely passed or failed his courses. Mr. Qualls was there to produce high school plays and nothing else. It was great for you if you were in one of his plays, but if you weren't you spent the period in a classroom by yourselves doing absolutely nothing. Mrs. Ruth always thought I was drawing hidden satanic messages in my art class, so she would take it upon herself to "censor" my art. That is she would paint or mark over it. Mr. Maynard told me once he didn't like me, and once he refused to hand a test out to me because he was sure I'd fail it anyways. He gave me a zero and I eventually failed his course. Mr. Davis let us sleep in his class. Mr. Williams used to let the underaged girls massage his shoulders during class. Etc. All true stories from my personal experience. And I could go on and on.

I can't remember a single teacher that brought their "A" game. Not one. And surprisingly not a single one of them was "eaten alive by students, administrators and parents (in that order)."

this song (specifically the chorus)/her voice/the echo all together remind me a lot of Maynard James K. and old The Perfect Circle... songs like 'Thomas' http://youtu.be/USK1ghU-XGw

... thats kinda funny, huh? probably share a lot of influences.

yup thats me bro, me on guitar, and awesome that it reminds you of deftones. Thats kind of what we're goin for: a deftones meets radiohead sort of thing. The heavy, sexy edge of deftones with the ambient, experimental electronica of radiohead.

i dont sing but im kind of the opposite when it comes to originals and covers. I was never really all that good at playing covers (especially memorizing em) but my talent shines when im playing original stuff. Glad you like it mate =)

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Wow that's some good shit! Seriously. That's your brother singing that? Kind of reminds me of The Deftones. At least he can sing originals, something I never could get the knack for. I'm just a imitator unfortunately. Never could find my voice. Mostly due to me being overly critical of my own singing I was just never happy with any original stuff I did.

And yes /handshake. I can pretty much be a prick myself when I want to be as you no doubt have figured out, LOL. I hate arguing with musicians. We are all brothers and sisters in my eyes.

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>> ^smooman:

and whats funny about karaoke? its fun (usually more so if you CANT sing like me), derp derp derp, ......and probably stuck up


Exactly, which is why I don't take it seriously when someone refers to a karaoke star as proof of talent. And yes if that makes me stuck up then so be it. I'm stuck up.

more than just a "karaoke star" i assure you: http://soundcloud.com/sphiralstudios (our bands works in progress page)
http://soundcloud.com/wolvestulsa (the full page, mixed and mastered. A few are being redone, namely Under Cover of Night and Some Kind of Bird, mainly because the songs have evolved from when we first wrote and recorded em (whats on there now) to what they are currently)

its in my nature to be an asshole, it takes some getting used to i suppose, so apologies for that. Put in another way, i was merely pointing out that i had four other "professional grade" singers listen to it and they flatly disagreed with your position, namely that there were plenty of "sour notes" and just an overall lack of pitch control (a talent rarely seen in today's pop stars, as opposed to say, maynard james keenan).

Guess thats just what i was trying to say, but in a dickish manner =P

/handshake?

Wow that's some good shit! Seriously. That's your brother singing that? Kind of reminds me of The Deftones. At least he can sing originals, something I never could get the knack for. I'm just a imitator unfortunately. Never could find my voice. Mostly due to me being overly critical of my own singing I was just never happy with any original stuff I did.

And yes /handshake. I can pretty much be a prick myself when I want to be as you no doubt have figured out, LOL. I hate arguing with musicians. We are all brothers and sisters in my eyes.

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>> ^smooman:

and whats funny about karaoke? its fun (usually more so if you CANT sing like me), derp derp derp, ......and probably stuck up


Exactly, which is why I don't take it seriously when someone refers to a karaoke star as proof of talent. And yes if that makes me stuck up then so be it. I'm stuck up.

more than just a "karaoke star" i assure you: http://soundcloud.com/sphiralstudios (our bands works in progress page)
http://soundcloud.com/wolvestulsa (the full page, mixed and mastered. A few are being redone, namely Under Cover of Night and Some Kind of Bird, mainly because the songs have evolved from when we first wrote and recorded em (whats on there now) to what they are currently)

its in my nature to be an asshole, it takes some getting used to i suppose, so apologies for that. Put in another way, i was merely pointing out that i had four other "professional grade" singers listen to it and they flatly disagreed with your position, namely that there were plenty of "sour notes" and just an overall lack of pitch control (a talent rarely seen in today's pop stars, as opposed to say, maynard james keenan).

Guess thats just what i was trying to say, but in a dickish manner =P

/handshake?

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>> ^smooman:

and whats funny about karaoke? its fun (usually more so if you CANT sing like me), derp derp derp, ......and probably stuck up


Exactly, which is why I don't take it seriously when someone refers to a karaoke star as proof of talent. And yes if that makes me stuck up then so be it. I'm stuck up.

more than just a "karaoke star" i assure you: http://soundcloud.com/sphiralstudios (our bands works in progress page)
http://soundcloud.com/wolvestulsa (the full page, mixed and mastered. A few are being redone, namely Under Cover of Night and Some Kind of Bird, mainly because the songs have evolved from when we first wrote and recorded em (whats on there now) to what they are currently)

its in my nature to be an asshole, it takes some getting used to i suppose, so apologies for that. Put in another way, i was merely pointing out that i had four other "professional grade" singers listen to it and they flatly disagreed with your position, namely that there were plenty of "sour notes" and just an overall lack of pitch control (a talent rarely seen in today's pop stars, as opposed to say, maynard james keenan).

Guess thats just what i was trying to say, but in a dickish manner =P

/handshake?

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>> ^direpickle:
I can't actually watch the video. I guess my adblocker's overzealous. Not too concerned.


Nope, it was actually dead.

I've replaced it with what will probably be a reliable source. The two backups as of right now are a part 1 and part 2.

>> ^lavoll:

uhm,...? whats special about this fight?


It's two men beating the snot out of one another! ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

I can't actually watch the video. I guess my adblocker's overzealous. Not too concerned.

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^lavoll:
uhm,...? whats special about this fight?

What's special about it? Not sure how to answer that.
It's a title fight.
It's a title fight that ends in a draw... that's only happened like 3x before.
It's a really close, hard-fought battle (hence the draw).


aha, i was just curious. it was an intense fight, and more interesting now with a little more context

>> ^lavoll:

uhm,...? whats special about this fight?


What's special about it? Not sure how to answer that.
It's a title fight.
It's a title fight that ends in a draw... that's only happened like 3x before.
It's a really close, hard-fought battle (hence the draw).

"Guess Who?"

by

Thomas Sowell

Guess who said the following: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work." Was it Sarah Palin? Rush Limbaugh? Karl Rove?

Not even close. It was Henry Morgenthau, Secretary of the Treasury under Franklin D. Roosevelt and one of FDR's closest advisers. He added, "after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. . . And an enormous debt to boot!"

This is just one of the remarkable and eye-opening facts in a must-read book titled "New Deal or Raw Deal?" by Professor Burton W. Folsom, Jr., of Hillsdale College.

Ordinarily, what happened in the 1930s might be something to be left for historians to be concerned about. But the very same kinds of policies that were tried-- and failed-- during the 1930s are being carried out in Washington today, with the advocates of such policies often invoking FDR's New Deal as a model.

Franklin D. Roosevelt blamed the country's woes on the problems he inherited from his predecessor, much as Barack Obama does today. But unemployment was 20 percent in the spring of 1939, six long years after Herbert Hoover had left the White House.

Whole generations have been "educated" to believe that the Roosevelt administration is what got this country out of the Great Depression. History text books by famous scholars like Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., of Harvard and Henry Steele Commager of Columbia have enshrined FDR as a historic savior of this country, and lesser lights in the media and elsewhere have perpetuated the legend.

Although Professor Schlesinger admitted that he had little interest in economics, that did not stop him from making sweeping statements about what a great economic achievement the New Deal was.

Professors Commager and Morris of Columbia likewise declared: "The character of the Republican ascendancy of the twenties had been pervasively negative; the character of the New Deal was overwhelmingly positive." Anyone unfamiliar with the history of that era might never suspect from such statements that the 1920s were a decade of unprecedented prosperity and the 1930s were a decade of the deepest and longest-lasting depression in American history. But facts have taken a back seat to rhetoric.

In more recent years, there have been both academic studies and popular books debunking some of the myths about the New Deal. Nevertheless, Professor Folsom's book "New Deal or Raw Deal?" breaks new ground. Although written by an academic scholar and based on years of documented research, it is as readable as a newspaper-- and a lot more informative than most.

There are few historic events whose legends are more grossly different from the reality than the New Deal administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. And there are few men whose image has been more radically different from the man himself.

Some of the most devastating things that were said about FDR were not said by his political enemies but by people who worked closely with him for years-- Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau being just one. Morgenthau saw not only the utter failure of Roosevelt's policies, but also the failure of Roosevelt himself, who didn't even know enough economics to realize how little he knew.

Far from pulling the country out of the Great Depression by following Keynesian policies, FDR created policies that prolonged the depression until it was more than twice as long as any other depression in American history. Moreover, Roosevelt's ad hoc improvisations followed nothing as coherent as Keynesian economics. To the extent that FDR followed the ideas of any economist, it was an obscure economist at the University of Wisconsin, who was disdained by other economists and who was regarded with contempt by John Maynard Keynes.

President Roosevelt's strong suit was politics, not economics. He played the political game both cleverly and ruthlessly, including using both the FBI and the Internal Revenue Service to harass and intimidate his critics and opponents.

It is not a pretty story. But we need to understand it if we want to avoid the ugly consequences of very similar policies today.