@newtboy

If you are only growing twice what you can eat yourself, you are describing a large garden, not a farm.

More over, what you class as 'industrial' farming is in fact the entirety of all grain farming. If there is a place in farming for wheat, corn, soy, canola and so on, 99% of it is done on what you class 'industrial' farming.

Your typical family farm is over a thousand acres today. If I go out and start naming the family farms of just friends and family I know, I can come up with 30-40+. They all farm over a thousand acres, they use tractors and combines and they make a fair bit more food than twice what they can eat. They aren't the ultra rich land barons that your 'industrial' moniker would imply either, at most they have a singular hired hand to help out with the work. The ones with children interested in taking over often don't need to hire anyone at all.

If you want to abandon that agricultural production and the methods used you mean raising the cost of production more than 100 times over. I can't even fathom the cost of weeding a thousand acres of wheat by hand, let alone removing grasshoppers from a corn crop that way. I'm sorry, but what works for your garden doesn't scale to grain crops.

Oh, and the conflation of herbicide and pesticide was done by the fear monger crowd. Listing round-up as a chemical that only kills plants and not insects and animals didn't fit their agenda so now everything is supposed to be called a pesticide across the board. Maybe that's just a Canadian thing, but the bottom line is that if you had a crop completely over run with insects you could spray it once a day with stupidly high concentrations of round-up and the water in the sprayer would do about the same damage to the insects as would the round up.


As for the video's other claims, I stand by my characterisation. You can't honestly tell me the video is trying to put forward on open and honest picture of Monsanto's actions and history. For example, the Manhattan Project, here's a transcription for clarity:
"Monsanto head Charles Allen Thomas was called to the pentagon not only asked to join the Manhattan project, but to lead it as it's co-director. Thomas put Monsanto's central research department hard to work building the atomic bomb.Fully aware of the implications of the task the budding empire sealed it's relationship with the inner cicrcles of washington with two fateful days in Japan.
"
- queue clip of nuclear blasts-

I think I stand by my summation.

Wait...there's going to be free food?!? I'm in!


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Thanks to @dag and @lucky760 for keeping it going. It's quite an accomplishment, keeping our rag tag group of misfits in line and out of serious trouble. You two are a great pair of internet dads, we couldn't ask for better.
Also a special mention for uncle @eric3579 , who's turned me on to many a great video, and been there as a friend or just friendly ear when I needed one more times than I can count, and been there to tell me when I'm going overboard or being too harsh, like a real friend does. He's also done quite a lot to make this site feel like a second home to me.

I think more people need to be taught to ignore cops when they "ask" you to do something, but not when they give a legal command.
The problem is they know what they can and can't command you to do, and how to frame their 'commands' as questions, like "I'm going to handcuff you and put you in my car for your and my safety....OK?" That's a question, not a command, the answer is "NO, I want my lawyer" and/or "I do not waive ANY of my rights for your convenience or safety". (really, I always want to reply "OK, but first I'm going to take and hold your gun and handcuff/car keys for my and your safety, OK?") Most cops would completely lose their shit at that, and call it 'disobeying a command', but conversely, in court they would say it was a 'request' not a command, because they know they had no right to command a person to submit to confinement with out a charge being made/crime being investigated. They can't hold you while they try to decide IF a crime even happened, only if they have reason to believe YOU committed/are committing a crime.
If the sentence starts with "can you", "will you", "may I", "can I", or ends with "OK?", "alright?", or just the inflection indicating "?", it's a request or question, not a command, no matter how commandingly they say it, and should not be confused with a command (like they hope you will) but instead should be completely ignored.
That is the disingenuous/dishonest manner is which they typically operate, and why you should never say a word to them. It never helps and can only hurt you in the end. They aren't trying to be your friend or just friendly, they're trying to find/make up something to charge you with.

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pffffft... i'd like to mention ladder theory. it seems to have been coined by a very angry, very sexually frustrated man on the internet. but i found it interesting. i have mostly dudes for friends. i've only gotten emotionally/sexually confused by 2 of them. one is a long term boyfriend. but i've interviewed them all about this ladder theory-ness. we all mostly agree with it. here it is:

men tend to have just one ladder, they would consider sticking their penis in every girl the know, just at varying levels. you may be the top rung on the ladder, or you may be at the very very bottom rung of the ladder. there is also the abyss... which is like "i'd rather chew my own arm off then sleep with this person". if you're there, you're either a relative or someone they dislike so much that you're not friends. or maybe you're an ex who did something awful.

girls have 2 ladders: a "guys they'd fuck ladder" and a "just friends" ladder. you can jump and/or straddle ladders, but you risk falling into the abyss.

i am aware that i've been/ may still be on some rung of my dude friends ladders, i suspect i occupy a rung at the very very bottom or maybe i'm in the abyss because i occupy "sister" status in their brains. they're all on my "just friends" ladder. so, it'll never happen. and i'm ok with that. i'm also not friends with emotionally stunted douchebags, which helps.

i feel like the only time you're not actually friends (despite whatever sexual interest may exist) is when you're so preoccupied with getting into your friends pants that you're not actually being her friend. or when one friend is in love and the other does not reciprocate. other than that, two reasonable, sexually attractive adults can be friends just fine.

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Does "just friends" imply that one or both parties don't want a relationship with one another, or does "just friends" imply that neither one would fuck the other given the opportunity? Males are generally opportunistic when it comes to sex. I have a lot of female friends, many of which, at any given time in our friendship, I would love to have put my penis in an orifice on their bodies. A few years ago, however, I discovered that having female friends to go-to-bat for me brought me far more chances with women than trying to do it on my own. Many girls I've dated casually or seriously (including the 3.5 years relationship I'm in now) were all friends of female friends. If you put your penis in your female friends, it's less likely they're want to help you out...

My girlfriend has friends that are also my friends. If we couldn't be just friends, then I would not have a steady girlfriend. These are idiot college kids making a video for Youtube.

I am still friends with many of my exes.

With one, we started as classmates, became friends, hooked up, came close to getting engaged, broke up, didn't talk for a while, and are now good friends.

None of my relationships with guy friends involve a fraction of that emotional complexity.

I think these interviews were well done, and uncovered the delusions of the women.

In college, I had many female friends that were good looking, which I was not in secret pursuit of. I mean, with a campus full of women, I think it would have been exhausting and frustrating to lust after every coed. So, there was a group of ladies i was actively campaigning to flip the status from friend to FwB or GF. I think "friend with benefits" is a nice concept, separating the emotion from the sex; I'm not sure if it's achievable. I've never achieved it.>> ^kceaton1:

I should add that I do have quite a few girl...friends, but I think it's the nature of the origin of the relationships that made them turn out this way. I ended up becoming friends with them when I was a little kid, like 6-8 years old. I'm around them enough that they are more like sisters than friends--and perhaps that IS the difference--the fact that they aren't necessarily friends, but almost family.
Of course, then I have to ask them the same question: What do they feel about me? The guy could still be right, but I doubt it. I think he's mostly right.
I do notice some girls like to keep their ex-ii as friends. I'll go on the record as stating that is a HORRIFIC idea. That would literally drive me nuts to date anyone doing that. I mean, I'd like to be "the bigger person" and let it slide, but that is just too much in your face and disrespectful--I think...

Any man can be just friends with any woman. It just requires "self-control". People who think otherwise have none, or lack character.

Ever been angry enough (that without self control) you wanted to punch out a friend? Does that make him/her your enemy?

Same goes the other way. If you respect the person enough to call them a friend, those urges are just that.

Also, you shouldn't fear the opposite gender friends of your "significant other". If there is a danger of him/her ending up with one of those friends, you obviously made a mistake to begin with. It's not the friend's fault, it's your partner's.

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In my teens? Yes, of course I was just friends with girls.

In my twenties? Hell no, I had female friends but I wanted to sleep with them all. I am a guy after all.

Married in my thirties? Sure, but because I am married, they are all my wife's friends, and they wouldn't sleep with me anyway! Now I just sit back with all the other husbands and stare rather grossly at all the wives and their friends. We never say anything, but we are all thinking about the same exact thing.

bullshit. there are tons of ugly broads I could totally be just friends with.

assuming I never get drunk or sexually frustrated again.

Its so weird running into someone else who plays League too, I tell people I play videogames all the time and they always think that's going to be a good conversation piece but it ends up sounding something like they'll start clambering on about God of War or Grand Theft Auto, and I meekly say "Uhh ever heard of League of Legends?" no "Vindictus?" no "Battlefield Bad Company?" Ehhh I've heard of it "COD Black ops?" OH YEAH I ROCK AT THAT ON 360!!! Oh ...PC? Like a computer game???

But yeah I'd love to find some fresh blood to play with, my usual crowd has turned into rageaholics. Drop me vent info in sift post or just friend me on LoL, same screen name: Jiggajonson

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