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Ron Paul Interview On DeFace The Nation 11/20/11

dystopianfuturetoday says...

@Grimm - At the risk of stating the obvious, don't you think it's more logical to believe that Reagan's loyalty to big money (and ALL of his predecessors) might have played a dominant role in the degradation of American public education, rather than the fact that a Department of Education exists? Boise laid out a number of deliberate poison pills in his comment. You've merely asserted your claim without any rational other than an arbitrary number of trips around the sun.

Let's say you buy a new car, and I tell you I hate it and intend to pop the tires, break the windows and light it on fire after you go to sleep. If the next morning you wake up to find your car on fire, with popped tires and broken windows, would you take it back to the dealer and claim the car was faulty? This, in essence, is what you are doing here.

If I were you, the logical counter argument would be, "well there you go, you've made my case, a malicious or subservient (take your pick) president was able to have a hugely negative effect on education nationally. Had it been left to the states, our educational system would be a utopic wonderland."

To which I would respond, "If big money can compromise a huge government, what makes you think they couldn't eat a state house for champagne brunch?"

The problem with libertarians is that they are unwitting allies of the corporate state. They believe that getting rid of government would end authoritarianism, completely failing to understand that the kind of authoritarianism that haunts our country would prefer to be unrestrained by government too. Right libertarianism, if enacted, would indeed provide more liberty to a handful of wealthy and powerful people, but it would come at the cost of liberty to the vast majority. 1% vs 99% if you will. Sound familiar? I see no clear difference between libertarianism and social Darwinism. If you respond to any of this, I'd most like to know how you differentiate libertarianism from social Darwinism.

I think a vast amount of people would prefer the liberty of healthcare, education, roads, fire departments, police departments, schools and libraries to the liberty to dominate a labor force, the liberty to pollute the environment with impunity, the liberty to manipulate the banking system or the liberty to build bloody corporate empires on foreign shores. What makes you think the business men that took us to war in the middle east wouldn't be twice as brutal without a single shred of oversight or transparency? What makes you think deregulated labor markets wouldn't revert back to pre-regulation era slavery if given the option?

If social Darwinism is what you truly desire, then we have nothing more to say to each other. However, if you want to stop authoritarianism, then stop trying to make it easier for authoritarians to thrive. Ron Paul is a nice fella and all - an adorable little grandfatherly gnome even - and I take him at his word when he says he believes his economic hypothesis would create liberty. Unfortunately, reality begs to differ. And, sincerity is no excuse for bad ideas.

Good debate. Peace.

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"Malice in Wonderland" - an extremely trippy 1982 movie

"Malice in Wonderland" - an extremely trippy 1982 movie

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'shark, shit on, defication, underwater wonderland, scuba diver, cage, poop' to 'shark, shit on, defecation, underwater wonderland, scuba diver, cage, poop' - edited by quantumushroom

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Amazing Tales and Photos of Ice-bound Wonderlands

BoneRemake says...

>> ^dag:

Could definitely be why the tags weren't matched on submission. Search was down for about 6 hours.
>> ^spoco2:
>> ^bareboards2:
So here's where it would be great if a promote on a dupe would transfer to the original, @dag. Waste of two power points on a vid that is really really great and should stay on page one.
And why the heck did VS not recognize "paul nicklen" as a dupe of the tag "Paul Nicklen"? Fussy, fussy!

Or, just the video itself should have been flagged as a dupe as it's the EXACT same embed.
Perhaps it's part of the current server issues?



Or rather Siftbot is a lazy slack ass cunt! A bot that would rather spend time pleasuring its I/O than catching obvious dubes.

Jes sayin.

*edit - Dubes, hahahahhaha Freudian slip

Amazing Tales and Photos of Ice-bound Wonderlands

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Could definitely be why the tags weren't matched on submission. Search was down for about 6 hours.

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^bareboards2:
So here's where it would be great if a promote on a dupe would transfer to the original, @dag. Waste of two power points on a vid that is really really great and should stay on page one.
And why the heck did VS not recognize "paul nicklen" as a dupe of the tag "Paul Nicklen"? Fussy, fussy!

Or, just the video itself should have been flagged as a dupe as it's the EXACT same embed.
Perhaps it's part of the current server issues?

Amazing Tales and Photos of Ice-bound Wonderlands

spoco2 says...

>> ^bareboards2:

So here's where it would be great if a promote on a dupe would transfer to the original, @dag. Waste of two power points on a vid that is really really great and should stay on page one.
And why the heck did VS not recognize "paul nicklen" as a dupe of the tag "Paul Nicklen"? Fussy, fussy!


Or, just the video itself should have been flagged as a dupe as it's the EXACT same embed.

Perhaps it's part of the current server issues?

Amazing Tales and Photos of Ice-bound Wonderlands

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I'm with ya. >> ^bareboards2:

So here's where it would be great if a promote on a dupe would transfer to the original, @dag. Waste of two power points on a vid that is really really great and should stay on page one.
And why the heck did VS not recognize "paul nicklen" as a dupe of the tag "Paul Nicklen"? Fussy, fussy!

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TED: Spirit Bears, Leopard Seals, and Disappearing Ice



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