Your argument is faulty by your own standard of morality and voting

1.
Capitalism is neither moral or immoral.
It's a self interested venture with the sole intent of maximizing profit. full stop.
It's amoral.

b : lacking moral sensibility

2.
Voting doesn't mean shit.
In 2000, Al Gore won the popular for President.

Why was Al Gore never president, bobknight?
That's who the people voted for in 2000, but that's not the government we got.

Explain these things Bobknight please. No response? Cognitive dissonance much?

I know it's tough to admit your beliefs are illusions at first.
It gets easier once you know there are people who are here to support you. =]

[ http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/amoral ]
[ http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0876793.html ]

p.s. - C. Wright. Power Elite. look it up. learn things bobknight
>> ^bobknight33:

How could anyone listen to this and not puke?
Capitalism is a good thing. Capitalism with out morals is a bad thing.
We have the government that we have now because that's what the people voted for.

Thanks for the quality, comrade.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
*quality ideas *quality bangs

More stuff for us to have a slap-fight about:

http://videosift.com/video/Gerald-Cohen-Against-Capitalism

The dudes name is Alex Kovas...he was the Ripped Chechnyan who was chasing Gerald Butler for a bit. Please don't ask me how I know these things.

EDIT: I believe this is part of the Humanimal project. http://www.wix.com/humanimal/humanimal

No seriously...don't ask me.

EDIT 2: You can also book Alex for special events...he's very good. Don't Ask.

You have been awarded 1 Power Point for fixing the embed code for Dead Pool video CBC News - Gerald Bull Assassinated by Israeli Mossad. Thank you for helping maintain VideoSift's reliability.

>> ^Truckchase:

He's got some decent points, but it's hard to take him seriously when he's talking to a head while wearing a shirt without working buttons. Please people, represent the people without looking like you're going to offer my child milk duds to come into your van.


you make me cry. *promote

Two sides to a coin....

http://videosift.com/video/Gerald-Celente-This-isn-t-reform-its-depression

>> ^alizarin:

Regarding assassination:
( ) President Gerald Ford issued an executive order banning political assassinations in 1976. However, Congress approved the use of military force against al-Qaida after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. People on the target list are considered to be military enemies of the US and therefore not subject to the ban on political assassination.
I agree with John Stewart's main point at the end - Obama is leaving this stuff too open to abuse and needs to close possible loopholes right away.
You can make the case that Al-Qaida is a legit military target and as such it's not really an assassination, just warfare. But where do you formalize what groups are "terrorists" and which individuals get lumped in, and how do you decide if a situation is dire enough to assassinate a militant American citizen vs capture and put him on trial? I don't think Obama is likely to let anything nasty happen but that's way too big of a danger to leave out there.
This story got big when Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said this in congressional testimony:
“Being a US citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated by military or intelligence operatives overseas if the individual is working with terrorists and planning to attack fellow Americans.” He added, “We don’t target people for free speech; we target them for taking action that threatens Americans.”
Again, not crazy reasoning...if an American is hiding in Yemen and plotting to blow up a plane maybe we can blow him up first, but way to wide open to avoid abuse. I'm a big Obama fan but I'm pissed that he's running this free and loose with this stuff. Hopefully it's on his to-do list and nothing nasty will become of it before he's done.


Not crazy reasoning? What is this? Israel? That's pretty fucking crazy reasoning. Apologist jingoism is unbecoming. What happened to due process? All because the Criminal suddenly became an enemy of the state?

I point you to a Movie, The Unthinkable. It's just a movie, of course, but it's the thought that it invokes. Just how far are you prepared to go?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unthinkable

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

It's like legal precedence. You allow one case to become a trend setter and many more judgments will follow that case. It's not a slippery slope argument, its a matter of legal precedence. If the US starts assassinating *citizens*, even if they are *terrorists* where does that leave the rest of the citizens? It's a terrible and disgusting thing to think about.

I don't think that there's been a legally declared War since WWII.

Regarding assassination:

(*) President Gerald Ford issued an executive order banning political assassinations in 1976. However, Congress approved the use of military force against al-Qaida after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. People on the target list are considered to be military enemies of the US and therefore not subject to the ban on political assassination.

I agree with John Stewart's main point at the end - Obama is leaving this stuff too open to abuse and needs to close possible loopholes right away.

You can make the case that Al-Qaida is a legit military target and as such it's not really an assassination, just warfare. But where do you formalize what groups are "terrorists" and which individuals get lumped in, and how do you decide if a situation is dire enough to assassinate a militant American citizen vs capture and put him on trial? I don't think Obama is likely to let anything nasty happen but that's way too big of a danger to leave out there.

This story got big when Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said this in congressional testimony:

“Being a US citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated by military or intelligence operatives overseas if the individual is working with terrorists and planning to attack fellow Americans.” He added, “We don’t target people for free speech; we target them for taking action that threatens Americans.”

Again, not crazy reasoning...if an American is hiding in Yemen and plotting to blow up a plane maybe we can blow him up first, but way to wide open to avoid abuse. I'm a big Obama fan but I'm pissed that he's running this free and loose with this stuff. Hopefully it's on his to-do list and nothing nasty will become of it before he's done.

Gee, a guy from IMF saying the system is fine? Figure that one out.

Inevitable total worldwide economic collapse is SUCH OLD NEWS. Just ask Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Gerald Celente, the list goes on... Get an acre and plant a big garden or riot and die.

Yeah, I've seen some clips of it on youtube.

CBC's The Fifth Estate also did a piece on Bull. It would be perfect for the sift (if anyone can find it - I've been trying unsuccessfully). It's about 50 minutes long.>> ^HugeJerk:

There was a docudrama about Gerald Bull with Frank Langela playing the man that I highly recommend watching. His ideas were amazing, but it was only the Iraqi's who were willing to invest in his ideas... but they likely wanted it for something other than putting payloads into orbit.

There was a docudrama about Gerald Bull with Frank Langela playing the man that I highly recommend watching. His ideas were amazing, but it was only the Iraqi's who were willing to invest in his ideas... but they likely wanted it for something other than putting payloads into orbit.

There's so much wharrgarbl going on in there I almost popped a blood vessel.

Contrary to the "Idiocracy" belief that our society is being "dumbed down", as it were (and, believe me, I still find myself saying this is the case) evidence suggests the opposite is the case. In first world nations across the globe intelligence quotients are rising (and plateauing in some cases, while minority's IQs are still rising), and belief in silly religions and superstitions are falling.

Yes there is Mercury in Thimersol, but it isn't the horrific kind.
Bad Mercury: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylmercury
Thimersol Mercury: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylmercury

The key words there are "Bioaccumulate": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaccumulate

For a look at the whole "Vaccines/Thimersol causes Autism" wharrgarbl, I rebuke with a video I posted to the sift a while back: http://videosift.com/video/Do-Vaccines-Cause-Autism-A-Detailed-Examination

Oh, and hey! How about the fact that Dr. Wakefield, the father of the whole Vaccine/Autism debacle with his article published in The Lancet was discredited finally!

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/02/and-now-the-antivax-failure-is-complete-the-lancet-withdraws-wakefields-paper/

As for the whole "Flouride" wharrgarbl I'd just recommend reading the Wiki's Article on Water Flouridation, in particular this section right around paragraph 3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#Ethics_and_politics

(Emphasis mine)

"Conspiracy theories involving fluoridation are common, and include claims that fluoridation was motivated by protecting the U.S. atomic bomb program from litigation, that (as famously parodied in the film Dr. Strangelove) it is part of a Communist or New World Order plot to take over the world, that it was pioneered by a German chemical company to make people submissive to those in power, that behind the scenes it is promoted by the sugary food or phosphate fertilizer or aluminum industries, or that it is a smokescreen to cover failure to provide dental care to the poor.[19] One such theory is that fluoridation was a public-relations ruse sponsored by fluoride polluters such as the aluminum maker Alcoa and the Manhattan Project, with conspirators that included industrialist Andrew Mellon and the Mellon Institute's researcher Gerald J. Cox, the Kettering Laboratory of the University of Cincinnati, the Federal Security Agency's administrator Oscar R. Ewing, and public-relations strategist Edward Bernays.[84] Specific antifluoridation arguments change to match the spirit of the time.[85]"


The video is right; let's get the facts. And if your facts only support your "New World Order", "omfg they're trying to control our minds" nonsense, well then, those are your "facts". There's a funny thing about why smart people believe weird things; read about it in Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things". It showed me the error of some of my foolish beliefs as well.

And I'm at the point where I wonder why I bother doing this, I'm talking to walls and making friends with no one. I guess I just care too much about seeing fear mongering bullshit like this peddled as if it has any rational backing whatsoever.

http://christophersisk.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/thestupiditburns.jpg

/downvote

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>> ^Citrohan:
In reply to this comment by Psychologic:
...it's Fox that is placing the blame on Obama ... he isn't someone who goes around blindly criticizing Obama just for the sake of partisanship (or if he does, it isn't in this video).
If he is not blaming Obama, why does he refer to his predictions as "Obamageddon" ?



To get attention mainly.

Celente opposes the current economic policy, and Obama just happens to be the one pushing it. If we enter a period of hyperinflation then that will pretty much be Obama's fault, and that is what Celente is predicting in essence. Obama isn't to blame for the economy going south before he took office, but that doesn't mean his policies can't do more damage.

It's sorta like Peter Schiff. Some people call him partisan for attacking Obama's economic policies, forgetting that he made the same criticisms of Bush (and he criticizes others for not having done the same).