In other news: a woman froze to death in Japan after sustaining injuries when her car went off an icy patch of road. Despite being a championship sprinter, she was unable to flag down help from a passing motorist.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=10f_1188034309

Pile Up on Italian Expressway

Sorry about the quality of this vid, appears to be condensation and rain on the camera lens.
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After slushy snow re-froze on this expressway in Porto San Georgio, Ascoli Piceno, Italy, it created an ultra-slick driving surface. The result was a multi-car pile-up that was captured by an unmanned traffic camera.

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He's like a fainting goat. Halfway up he just froze solid.

my god, she probably froze to death on that roof top

If you'll note, the end of the hose has been cut off. If the threaded end was still on, the ice wouldn't have come out like that, it would have stayed plugged.

The hose probably just froze overnight and the person cut the end off to get the hose unplugged.

A guy's drink froze while outside. 20 years later he somehow decided to put a stick in it. Thus, frozen ice on a stick was accidentally invented?

And something gave a guy an idea to create Velcro, so he then successfully created it. So the makers of the video believe any time something inspires someone to invent something, they invented it by accident?

hopefully this home cleanup ended with a series of some antibiotics... I had one of these on my back once, though not even remotely as blue-ribbon best-in-fair class... they said there wasnt much they could do for anesthetic... they froze my skin and then scalpled it

>> ^bareboards2:

Plays for me...
I wonder what is up?
In reply to this comment by Unsung_Hero:
I think my video froze half way through.



Twas a joke about there not actually being a video.

...a bad one at that lol

Plays for me...

I wonder what is up?
In reply to this comment by Unsung_Hero:
I think my video froze half way through.

I think my video froze half way through.

The question with global warming to me is, are we even capable of reducing emissions and would we still be able to afford to feed ourselves if we did to the level it would require to reverse it.

Can't stand to read much on it because it's usually non-quantified changes they tell everyone to make, and you have to wade through all the nuts discussing it on both sides. There's almost no "practicality-tempered view" in everything that comes out.

IE
If we all are expected to take public transport, are they going to build public transport, is it going to be so restrictive as to be worthless? Or so costly as to be useless?

If we all are expected to get electric cars, how will we pay for them? How long do current one's last? If it's less than 10 years, how is it cost effective in both the monetary and environmental sense to replace a car that often?

Why do we have manufacturing laws that allow companies to pump out stuff that breaks and is too costly to repair creating a system of replacing whatever every 1-3 years? I've had these microwaves, the POSes don't even last 5 years, where my grandmother had one from the 80s that still works today. Granted it takes forever to nuke something, but good lord, not even getting a 5 year average out of microwaves is piss. And then we have cell phones, those things get replaced more than underwear by some people. Computers have mostly slowed down, where you don't need a new computer every 3-5 years to do simple things.....but you know we got a load of tube monitors and old computers just sitting wherever or shipped wherever because there is nothing to be done with them in the US...charities won't even take OLD machines most the time.

And is the environment impact greater importing things from China or manufacturing them here so they travel less distance and hopefully have better environment protections and more efficiency in place? It's certainly more economically sound, in the short term at least, to ship everything from China. But if we're going to do global warming fixes and this is one.......it would be a huge boon to the US population to actually have an abundance of jobs return. PLUS they can hopefully be told they have to make no planned obsolete cheap-shit products to fill the junkyards and landfills and require a new one to be made like is currently going on.

Got a fridge a few years back, it is craptacular compared to the fridge it replaced that was like 10-15 years old. Sure it keeps food cold, but it's ice maker sucks, it's been "repaired" at least twice and it still sucks. And again, the grandmother's fridge...no ice maker, but it still works to this day and it's an 80s model.

None of this can be productive. Like cash for clunkers......was it really productive destroying that many cars when you'd just have to make new ones to fill that gap? And the people who have old cars and couldn't afford to get new ones?....they still have old cars, perhaps worse than if they had bought one of those clunkers. They were purposefully destroying the motors in those cash for clunker cars by running the motors without oil until they froze, that is not good for the environment and has no productive worth.

When they start to explain things in terms you can look at your own house and property and say, you know...that does need replaced and it'll be so much better because it's guaranteed to perform better and not need replacing for 5-10 years with regular maintenance due the new standards.

One: Do you believe that Randall should live or die? Plus your reasoning for it. I would suggest remembering his time in town (episode 10) and what he said to Daryl and Karl.

1: I think Randall will say or do whatever it takes to stay alive. He sees a weakness in their group's mindset and tries to play on it. He took the wrong approach with Karl. However his former group left him to die. He knew of the girl and her farm. Why did he not lead his former group to the farm for supplies at least if he a true member of it? I think he realizes numbers = better chance of survival and that the group we're seeing in the story is not very structured or strong. In the end, not living in a zombieland, he should live. However with the story how it is, and how he manipulated and saw how much the group who normally wouldn't have killed outright tried to kill him AFTER beating his ass....I think they need to kill him. I don't agree with it, I can understand it though. He will be the guy who sets the precedent that if they kill him, all future humans (but probably not women or children) will be killed. If they don't kill him, he will betray them and prove their decision wrong.

2: Karl sees everyone he doesn't know as a walker. Whether they are or not. I think seeing the walker kill Dale with it likely being Karl's fault has probably locked in his reaction from here on out. His only exception will be young women, due to Sophia. As for confession of possibly leading the walker, I think at the moment he's leading towards Shane in character so he probably will not confess to anything to the current group. Although I think it will come out eventually because this show is drama more than anything else.

3: Right time? Probably. Immediate reaction was: This is just stupid, he walked off alone into the dark, saw a torn apart cow and just froze like he was confused as to what possible could have caused it. The effect on the group will be seeing the world as uglier but acting as if it wasn't in his name, and it will be largely negative and become a plot device on how they will screw themselves going forward. I don't see Dale as a member with power, Glenn will take up his role and Glenn has actual juice to make it happen since he's the go to guy for getting supplies. There may be the possibility of Daryl and Glenn sharing the role Dale played as the group conscience since Daryl has been on the outs and needs to be brought back in. I have no idea on the television politics, but his character was doing less and less each episode. At least before he was keeping the RV running and things organized. Anymore he barely appeared in the episodes in any significant role. Daryl, Glenn, and Andrea were doing significant amounts of sitting on the RV and playing lookout.

Personally I'd like to see Daryl replace Dale and then have the other "big" group headed up by Daryl's brother who lost the hand in Season 1. Hopefully it'll be action based and cleverness instead of drama and talking. Where Glenn and Daryl are more fixtures in the series, because Im tired of hearing about the baby/pregnancy and Hershel's family is largely just boring as all hell. And that farm looks like possibly the worst possible place to pick for fortifying and they have done nothing to prepare it......like boarding the lower windows.

I may have to look into the books.....in the middle of some other books right now though.

Lots of stuff bugs me about this show. I know the farm is to keep budgets down, but they added a shitload of recurring characters at the same time as they picked a dull setting....so Im not sure how that saved them money.

>> ^obscenesimian:

>> ^Shepppard:
>> ^obscenesimian:
>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.

Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.
Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.
And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.
Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.

Wow, Lotta hate going on. Anyone who fucking lives and works outside where it goes to 50 below should know that sitting on your ass creating your own windchill will give you frostbite. Plowing does not occur 40 to 60 miles an hour. At 50 below and high rates of speed heated grips don't work to keep ALL of ones hand warm . All of you fucking desk monkeys know jack shit! This type of frostbite happens to people involved in "Recreational Activities" now be good little nerds and fuck off.


How bout you read my post again carefully?

I never said HE was the one plowing, and if I did, why the fuck would he be doing it on something with an open cab.

Exactly what I said was: "IN THE NORTH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE PLOWS, AND HE POTENTIALLY HAD TO USE A SNOWMOBILE TO GET INTO TOWN"

Nowhere is there ANY information as to why he was riding a snowmobile, but if it's 50 below, there's a pretty good fucking chance that he wasn't doing it recreationally, and until stated otherwise, once again, how about we stop assuming and have a little bit of sympathy?

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^obscenesimian:
>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.

Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.
Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.
And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.
Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.


Wow, Lotta hate going on. Anyone who fucking lives and works outside where it goes to 50 below should know that sitting on your ass creating your own windchill will give you frostbite. Plowing does not occur 40 to 60 miles an hour. At 50 below and high rates of speed heated grips don't work to keep ALL of ones hand warm . All of you fucking desk monkeys know jack shit! This type of frostbite happens to people involved in "Recreational Activities" now be good little nerds and fuck off.

>> ^obscenesimian:

>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.


Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.

Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.

And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.

Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.