>> ^obscenesimian:

>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.


You seem to have a pretty good grasp on the situation, where do you take your information from?
For instance, why was he out there? Did he know about the circumstances? Does maybe his job include putting himself to this risk?

In other words: why are you jumping to exactly that conclusion? Did something similar happen to you once?

>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?


No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.

Its been almost 200 years since the last time the Thames froze over

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs

>> ^Trancecoach:

why is this in the 90s channel?
Why is this not in the travel channel?


'Cos last time the canals froze over was in the 90's.

>> ^raverman:

I'll lift up a car... but I ain't touching anything more than your floppy shattered leg to drag you out.
Move you far enough from the car to be actually safe? What am i a f--king taxi?
But i'll be damned if i sit by you, see if you're breathing, perform cpr or provide any comfort until help arrives.
Good on them I suppose... but that's the least compassionate non-commital rescue i've ever seen.


I have a different take on this. If you were watching people in a normal environment doing something non-stressful then I'd agree with you. But we're not. We're watching people doing something that could well be the most stressful thing they'll ever do. As far as they know the car could explode at any time, or it could fall on them trapping them in the flames or any number of other things. Whether these things are actually likely or not is immaterial, it's all the things that would be running through these people's head. But they overcame that and did what they had to do.

I have a very close friend who is a fireman and he deals with situations very differently to me. He's used to the stress of the situation. He's used to seeing death. It's just his job and he's de-sensitised to it. I'm not. I was driving along behind a truck in rush hour traffic a few years ago. Long story short, the truck in front of the one in front of me braked very suddenly and the truck in front of me didn't notice. Drove into the back of the other truck and crushed the cab. I screeched to a stop, jumped out and ran to the front of the lorry to see what had happened an if I could help. I'm first aid trained so I should be of some use. I was stood in the middle of the road looking at a crushed cab with the driver crushed against the wheel, unconscious. There was blood dripping from the cab. I looked back to the huge queue of traffic that was stopped behind my car and saw the most terrible thing I've ever seen. Just a huge row of people, all just sat in their cars waiting for someone else to deal with the problem. It was probably the worst moment of my life. No-one else gave a shit and I was watching a man die.

My phone was dead so I ran back to the car behind mine and asked the woman driving to call an ambulance, which she did. I ran back to the cab to see if there was anything I could do and I just froze. I couldn't deal with the stress, my brain just tried to shut down. What snapped me out of it was a guy running toward me to help, from about twenty cars further back down the queue. Just having someone else help - not being alone - was enough and we got the guy out of the cab. Eventually a few other people helped, but it took them a while to come forward.

Every one of the people in this video is risking their life to help someone they don't know. They stepped forward and the guy survived. To sit back in your comfy chair and criticise a construction worker in an incredibly stressful situation not doing precisely the right thing is just the wrong way to look at it. They manned the fuck up and saved his life. You've just seen a lot of very ordinary people do something incredible and they deserve credit for that. If I saw a fire crew do the same thing I'd be disgusted, but that's not what they are.

Your mind goes blank and it takes a huge amount of effort to get anything done in that situation. I've got all the time in the world for every one of the people in this video. It wasn't text book, but they saved him, and deserve all the credit for it.

>> ^tsquire1:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froze-wi
kileaks-funds/
Ya know, any reasonable person in this day and age would join an anti-capitalist organization...


What does corrupt government influence have anything to do with capitalism? You could also, with little critical thought, say any reasonable person should be anti-representative democracy, anti-fiat money system, anti-foreign alliances and trade. The problem isn't as simple as that, unfortunately. The problem is more a problem of human nature being able to force entropy on any system. The real thing to be anti, is anti-the evils of the human condition.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/hackers-website-bank-froze-wikileaks-funds/

Ya know, any reasonable person in this day and age would join an anti-capitalist organization...

>> ^Unsung_Hero:

Very, VERY interesting story. But it ended extremely abruptly. I would love to see an interview with this lady that answers a few questions like...umm oh I don't know, "What's it like being dead?"


To answer your question: The same as before you were conceived.
Here is a site for you too:
http://whathappensafteridie.com/

Pro tip: Check the source code

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This game sucked. Finished in a few hours. The game froze on my several times.

@blankfist, since you seem to want my thoughts on this (but for some reason, wanted to edit the comment to look like you were just clearing your throat), I'll give you my rebuttal.

I'll take his three points in reverse order.

#3 about regulatory uncertainty is one of these universal conservative economic fantasies. There's no evidence that this really has any kind of macroeconomic effect. Certainly the usual conservative and business advocacy groups always get a laundry list of businessmen to all line up and say how they won't be able to function if they have to pay compensation to workers injured on the job, have to check to see if the products they produce are poisonous or otherwise unsafe, can't dump toxic chemicals into lakes and rivers, can't use slave labor, etc, etc. They always fight against efforts to stop them from being able to leverage negative market externalities for extra profit.

#2 The Yahoo Finance link itself debunks this, because what Schiff says is a flat-out lie. Here's what that link says:

In contrast to Schiff's warning, the law does the following, according to Reuters:

“The bill would set up an "orderly liquidation" process that the government could use in emergencies, instead of bankruptcy or bailouts, to dismantle firms on the verge of collapse.

“The goal is to end the idea that some firms are 'too big to fail' and avoid a repeat of 2008, when the Bush administration bailed out AIG and other firms but not Lehman Brothers. Lehman's subsequent bankruptcy froze capital markets.

“Under the new rule, firms would have to have 'funeral plans' that describe how they could be shut down quickly.”

Liberal critics also question whether the bill addresses "Too Big to Fail", but they're talking about limits on the overall size of banks.

#1 I've covered this fantasy of Schiff's about the nature of the crisis before. Here are two quick points I always make, which you never respond to: low interest rates don't create moral hazard, and Fannie and Freddie weren't even remotely the biggest players in the subprime mortgage-backed security space, much less the chief source of moral hazard.

All the moral hazard was created by the financial industry thinking it had found a way to insulate itself from the risks involved in bad mortgages using CDO's and CDS's -- without relying on government backing of any kind.

I'm happy to go into much more depth on #1 if you like, but you've never really demonstrated that you have any interest in listening to what I have to say on the topic with anything like an open mind.

Oh, and liberals agree that this bill doesn't really do enough in addressing the underlying problems that led to the crisis (the real ones). Basically, they say there's not enough rating agency reform, no leverage caps on investment banks, no Glass-Steagall separation of traditional and investment banks, no commitment to break up banks that grow beyond a certain size, etc.

In fact, from what I've read, the strongest part of this bill is exactly the part Schiff lied about -- it should prevent future Congresses from being forced to do taxpayer-funded bailouts. Instead, it'll be like the standard FDIC process for failed banks, only scaled up to deal with corporations of this size and complexity. Under that process, the bank shareholders, owners, and management get wiped out and fired, but the bank's creditors and depositors are made whole. The bank fails, but it doesn't take a huge chunk of the economy with it when it goes.

Let me know how it turns out. Pretty damn amazing. Low fat. Dairy free. Don't forget to use ripe bananas. I froze mine before they were ripe enough and it tasted slightly green.

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Sounds delish. I'm going to make this tonight.

When I was a kid in Calgary where Cool Runnings took place we had a few days when it didn't matter what temperature scale you used (-40). My father an army medic had to tend to a soldier who got careless and froze his ear and broke a piece off.

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
Actually recovered data from a HD that malfunctioned and had the click of death. So being a tech, I had heard of that old wives tale about putting a dead drive in the freezer. Couldn't believe it actually worked. The first time I had about twelve minutes, I froze it again, eight minutes and then a third time netted me only five, but I got all my data off it.
So it does work in particular cases; not bullshit.


Actually saved data from a server HD that nobody had seen fit to keep backups for. Before giving up and throwing the HD in the scrape heap we figured what's there left to lose and froze it, sure enough it did come back. I've tried it a couple times since on dead drives and for me it's worked less than 50% of the time, but has succeeded more than once. It is worth a shot if all else has failed and there's nothing to lose.

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
Actually recovered data from a HD that malfunctioned and had the click of death. So being a tech, I had heard of that old wives tale about putting a dead drive in the freezer. Couldn't believe it actually worked. The first time I had about twelve minutes, I froze it again, eight minutes and then a third time netted me only five, but I got all my data off it.


Not heard of this one, but read up on it and I'm intrigued. Just put my old hard drive in the freezer, cabled up and triple bagged. Fingers crossed I'll be able to recover my long lost photos.