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Jefferson Memorial Dancing on June 4 2011

Opus_Moderandi says...

>> ^marbles:


I believe in The Law as described by Bastiat here. Laws are derived from the individual's natural rights, not by society's mindless whims. The Constitution is what establishes the government and defines it's responsibilities.
I don't believe it's a huge issue, but it's not trivial either. There's certainly bigger issues out there that we need to fight, but small battles count too. One thing these protests really expose is the role of the police force and how they have morphed into a paramilitary occupation force taking orders from the government, rather than a force of fellow citizens working for the welfare of the community and guided by the rule of law.



marbles, tell me honestly, how many people that go to the Jefferson Memorial, on an average day, go there to dance? A rough estimate...?

The thing that makes this pointless is that they are fighting for something that no body wants to do anyway. The only people that care about being able to dance at the Jefferson Memorial are these activists.

Who is this a small battle for? If they were protesting something people do every day or WANT to do every day, I'd be on board. If they were protesting something other, non-activist people did and were arrested for, I'd be all for it.

But, the only instances of the issue they are protesting are their own examples. They don't have any non-protest examples of this great outrage.
That makes it ego maniacal, imo.

Once in a Lifetime - Talking Heads

Choggie kicked off the Sift again? (Wtf Talk Post)

KnivesOut says...

>> ^thinker247:

Such a divisive character. Don't worry, in three days go see the stone rolled away from his profile page.


THE PROPHECY IS FULFILLED!>> ^chicchorea:

Why? Whatever would make you ask that?
That was easier and faster than I expected.
Now...breathe deeply and count backwards from one hundred...you won't feel a th.......

Alrighty then...#10 Scalpel

QUICK DRAW THAT CURTAIN!

Choggie kicked off the Sift again? (Wtf Talk Post)

Forehead Tittaes w/ Marion Cotillard

Gabe_b says...

>> ^MaxWilder:
You can dress however you want, but understand there are consequences for your choices. When you go out to clubs, bars, or even just around town during the day, go ahead and show off that body you are proud of. You want to feel attractive, and that's cool. It doesn't really matter if the barista sees you as a professional or as a tart.
However, in the workplace women need to cover that cleavage if they want to be taken seriously. Unless you are purposefully trying to distract men and make them underestimate you, there is no reason to show cleavage or have that dress shirt open down to your sternum. Similarly, tight clothing serves no purpose.
This discussion keeps popping up every now and then. There are some women who want to have their cake and eat it too. Either you sexualize yourself in the workplace, or you don't. It's really your choice as to how to arrange your clothes, hair, and makeup. You don't get to look hot and then complain that men can't focus on business. It's just dumb, and I'm tired of hearing the complaint.


Yep. Unfortunate but true. My girl has great boobs but doesn't dress in a way to play them up. Never heard her make this specific complaint. She has plenty of other groans about guys, but not that one.

Forehead Tittaes w/ Marion Cotillard

MaxWilder says...

You can dress however you want, but understand there are consequences for your choices. When you go out to clubs, bars, or even just around town during the day, go ahead and show off that body you are proud of. You want to feel attractive, and that's cool. It doesn't really matter if the barista sees you as a professional or as a tart.

However, in the workplace women need to cover that cleavage if they want to be taken seriously. Unless you are purposefully trying to distract men and make them underestimate you, there is no reason to show cleavage or have that dress shirt open down to your sternum. Similarly, tight clothing serves no purpose.

This discussion keeps popping up every now and then. There are some women who want to have their cake and eat it too. Either you sexualize yourself in the workplace, or you don't. It's really your choice as to how to arrange your clothes, hair, and makeup. You don't get to look hot and then complain that men can't focus on business. It's just dumb, and I'm tired of hearing the complaint.

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Pink Floyd - "Pigs (Three Different Ones)"

The Sift, Thoreau, and Civil Disobedience (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

poolcleaner says...

I dunno about you, but I have a good job that I'd like to keep. I could not afford to spend time in jail. California has an "At Will" policy and can legally terminate your employment due to incarceration. I know this from experience and it holds up in a court of law. Look up California employment laws. I'm not a lawyer, but one of my bosses used to be one and my mother works in a law office. Inefficacy might not be something that would stop determined minds who have dedicated their lives towards such pursuits, but when the majority of people are mostly spending their days being employed and enjoying (or just frantically keeping up) the fruits of their labor, despite their opinions (and especially if they have a family to support), are faced with moral dilemmas above the evil of government.

If you've ever read anything by Milan Kundera, you might be familiar with The Unbearable Lightness of Being in which the protagonist, a Czech surgeon named Tomas, is forced by the Soviets to either renounce a loosely anti-Communist article he wrote or step down as surgeon. He steps down and becomes a window washer. He is approached by his estranged son and a man who was impressed by the article, requesting his signature on a petition to free political prisoners. Tomas, remembering his wife's smiling face, declines to sign for fear of what the secret police might do.

As the days go by, he can't remember why he didn't sign, but when justifying to himself why he didn't, he recalls Czech history: 1618, in defiance of their emperor, the Czechs threw several high officials out the window of a castle in Prague, leading in part to the Thirty Years War. A war of which resulted in the death of 1/3 of the population of Czechoslovakia. More than 300 years later, at the 1938 Munich Conference, it was decided that Czechoslovakia would be given up to appease the Nazis. Here, the Czech leaders showed caution in not opposing, leading in part to World War II.

"Einmal ist Keinmal," says the author. Or, "What happens once might well have not happened at all." Meaning, we cannot ever know if caution or courage are the correct choices in situations. And, because I'd rather not spend time interpreting what I know of this philosophy into words, will quote Wikipedia: (Which is pretty accurate in this case.)

"By this logic life is ultimately insignificant; in an ultimate sense, no single decision matters. Since decisions do not matter, they are light — that is, they don't cause us suffering. Yet simultaneously, the insignificance of our decisions — our lives, our being — causes us great suffering. Hence the phenomenon Kundera terms the unbearable lightness of being: because life occurs only once and never returns, no one's actions have any universal significance. This idea is deemed unbearable because as humans we want our lives to mean something, for their importance to extend beyond just our immediate surroundings."

Some of us know this, or rather, believe this through experience, informing our actions or lack thereof. Yes, life can be unbearably light; and, through a combination of survival, providing for our families, understanding that courageous action can lead to catastrophe and that we have no way of knowing the whole truth in any given situation, do not go out disobeying the government to demonstrate.

Most of us wanna do the right thing, but sometimes the right thing isn't easily determined. I'll tell you what, though: if it came down to it, like Han Solo, I'd most assuredly fly back and shoot Darth Vader. (I'm going off on a tangent unrelated to my lack of conviction towards CD.) But in California, it is currently a time of peace and, despite having friends and relatives who are currently, faithfully blowing shit up (Semper fidelis), I am focused on being monetarily sound (and philosophically open) -- I really need more vespene gas.

Bale Out! RevoLucian's Christian Bale Remix

Kerotan says...

>> ^youdiejoe:
I think Bale may have been a tad on the rough side, BUT, you have to take it in context.
If the DP is wondering in and out of your site lines while you are trying to do a big scene, I would say yes, give him a tounge lashing. Also, for the DP, you apologized... SHUT UP, stop adding on... apologize and WALK AWAY.
Most of us don't have someone recording our every moment and good/bad days go un-noticed by the general public. So stand back, enjoy the fun, but really... Do any of us really know what happened? Enough to make bold public statements about sanity? I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying it funnier with a techno beat behind it.


The man, he speaks sense.

Bale Out! RevoLucian's Christian Bale Remix

youdiejoe says...

I think Bale may have been a tad on the rough side, BUT, you have to take it in context.

If the DP is wondering in and out of your site lines while you are trying to do a big scene, I would say yes, give him a tounge lashing. Also, for the DP, you apologized... SHUT UP, stop adding on... apologize and WALK AWAY.

Most of us don't have someone recording our every moment and good/bad days go un-noticed by the general public. So stand back, enjoy the fun, but really... Do any of us really know what happened? Enough to make bold public statements about sanity? I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying it funnier with a techno beat behind it.

New Internet Phenomenon - Boxxy!

Bear Grylls - Piss on Your T-shirt (dubbed hilariousness)

brycewi19 says...

Hilarious!

If anyone actually listens to this reckless idiot for survival skills, they'll get themselves killed within a day.

Go watch Les Stroud for a logical and safe way to survive (if comparing TV shows).

Talking Heads "Once In A Lifetime"

calvados says...

Talking Heads:Once In A Lifetime
From LyricWiki
This song is performed by Talking Heads.

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself: Well...How did I get here?

Letting the days go by; let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by; water flowing underground
Into the blue again; after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime; water flowing underground.

And you may ask yourself
How do I work this?
And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile?
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful house!
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful wife!
Letting the days go by; let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by; water flowing underground
Into the blue again; after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime; water flowing underground.

Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...

Water dissolving...and water removing
There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Under the water, carry the water
Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean!
Water dissolving...and water removing

Letting the days go by; let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by; water flowing underground
Into the blue again; into the silent water
Under the rocks and stones; there is water underground
Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the money's gone
Once in a life time water flowing underground.

And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go to?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right?...Am I wrong?
And you may say to yourself
MY GOD!...WHAT HAVE I DONE?

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/into the silent water
Under the rocks and stones/there is water underground
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground

Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...
Look at where my hand was
time isn't holding us, time isn't after us
Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...

letting the days go by(x3)
once in a lifetime
letting the days go by(x3)
once in a lifetime



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