>> ^spoco2:

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad


You'll have to speak up, I can't hear you from down here <3

Yeah... that's a concussion...

@timtoner Ender seems very relevant, especially since I'm reading Ender's Shadow right now.

The virtual hall monitor is here everybody.

>> ^spoco2:

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^spoco2:
It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad

Ladies and gentlmen, the words of a man who has never been bullied.
(in before spoco2's embellishment about being horrifically bullied to save face


I wouldn't assume that. Knowing Spoco2's comment history I anticipated that response and he's at least partially right. I think the Dark channel assignment sums that up well for me.

However like many people I was bullied until I went a bit mental one day and clobbered a friend who had gone way too far. After that I was on my own until eventually the rest of our little group, satisfyingly for me, dissolved. And to be honest I had no regrets. I'd be quite happy even now if I'd done him some serious damage instead of just seeing that shocked look on his face. I'm pretty calm and collected but sometimes anger is a useful emotion that encourages self-preservation and not just on the physical level.

To deal with this go to the source - check out wtf is wrong with the parents because I never felt the need to bully nor did my friends.

>> ^spoco2:

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad


Ladies and gentlmen, the words of a man who has never been bullied.

(in before spoco2's embellishment about being horrifically bullied to save face

>> ^spoco2:

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad


The world you want to live in simply does not exist.

>> ^spoco2:

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.
There's nothing good in this.
Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.
But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).
What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?
Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f cking exist and yet you cheer... sad


He had good control of the bully's head, and it was no where near "dropping him on his neck". A well controlled throw is MUCH safer than if he'd attempted to punch the bully, which risks knocking the little shit out and giving him an actual concussions. Also, in the adrenaline fueled rage of a fight, it's good to see that the bully's victim had the self control to walk away.

Of course, it is very sad that the situation escalated to physical confrontation. But given that the bully was already throwing punches at the victim's face, I think he handled the situation EXTREMELY well.

It saddens me to read all of you saying how happy this makes you, hurray for him etc. etc.

There's nothing good in this.

Yes, the bully is a little shit, yes he deserves serious fricken punishment. Yes those around also deserve punishment for condoning what was going on and for spurring him on.

But thinking that it's an awesome outcome for the bullied to fight back in a way that could have killed the little shit? No, the kid is lucky that he didn't do any serious damage to the other (do we know he didn't, was that kid hobbling about due to a hurt leg or concussion?).

What if he had killed him by dropping him on his neck?

Where is the good in this? This is shit, this whole situation shouldn't f*cking exist and yet you cheer... sad

One word: concussion.

I feel bad for this guy. The blast alone can really mess his brain up.

1:38 was actually pretty accurate.

But remember kids, trying to break laminated safety glass with your head can lead to severe concussion, loss of conciousness and/or a cracked skull. Unless you're wearing a superhero suit of course, then you can just get up and continue fighting the bad guy!

Really? The guy holding her down wasn't already giving her that message? Really?

Also, don't hedge "slipped" with "a bit". It "slipped" "enough to give her a concussion".

I'm not condemning the actions of the crowd. I'm not even necessarily condemning the actions of the man who held her down. If he was honestly concerned for the welfare of Paul, who's to say his actions aren't defensible?

But kicking a woman's head into concrete while another man holds her down? You're defending that? What kind of fucked up society is this where that kind of action is defended along party lines?>> ^Sagemind:

The push with his foot looked like the same push any one gives as a message to stay down, you've lost, stay down, stop fighting. I think to judge anything by this short clip is wrong (inconclusive). It looks to me his foot was on her shoulder and it slipped a bit - he wasn't aiming for her head.

@Sagemind rather than trusting RedState's interpretation of the video, what do you see happen there?

I see Lauren Valle try to stuff a sign into the window of Rand's car. I then see the guy in a gray suit (who probably is the actual security) physically grab her and move her away from the car, and then let her go.

Had it ended there, I say no harm no foul.

But after he lets her go, we have the events from the other video, where two supporters tackle her to the ground, and hold her head on the curb. They have her completely restrained, when Tim Profitt decides to give her head a stomp foot blessing.

Reverse this for a moment, if it'd been Jack Conway, and some teabaggette had stuffed a sign into his window, and after security moved her away from the truck, two Obama supporters tackled her, held her on the ground, and I came along and give her head a calming foot massage (with full concussion), would you be defending me?

Would you be claiming that there is a valid context in which I could utter the phrase "She should apologize to me, if I'm honest", and still be an upright and decent human being?

Excellent point.

Willfully omitted from this video is the part where this woman assaulted the two men twice her size, simultaneously holding down both, then giving them concussions. Those very concussions are to be blamed for the lack of judgement shown.>> ^bobknight33:

Out of context. Is there any other footage of what lead up to this?

Now you play semantics to justify your sensationalized headline.

What's happening in that video is NOT someone getting their head stomped on, once again, stop trying to make it something it's not. The worst part is, what you are attempting to do with your attention grabbing headline isn't even necessary. What happened in the video is damning enough without you making it sound worse than it was. We SEE the video. We know YOU see the video. We know that it's not a stomp. So now you try to list general definitions of what a stomp/stamp is in order to justify the headline. It would be more genuine of you to say she was held down forcibly with someones foot than to say someone stomped on her head, which is an out right fabrication.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Completely uncalled for, but not curb stomping to be sure. I was expecting a cut from American History X, glad I didn't get what I expected. In as much as the right calls Obama a socialist, this is a curb stomping. A return to sanity, unlikely.

>> ^hPOD:
Stop using the word stomp, because that's not what happened. I've watched the video, so have many others. Want to see a stomp, watch American History X...there is a difference between what's in that video and someones head/neck being stomped on about the size of the Grand Canyon.

I don't get you guys. Three men grab a woman, push her to the ground, hold her there and then stomp on her head, giving her a concussion. The Lexington Police has sent Tim Profitt a summons to appear in court so a judge can decide if criminal assault charges are warranted.
Sure, it didn't work like it did in American History X where they put the guy's teeth on concrete first. It also didn't work like in Gears of War where the victim's head explodes like a blood-filled watermelon.
So because it doesn't look like exaggerated Hollywood violence, it's not a stomp?
>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
In as much as the right calls Obama a socialist, this is a curb stomping. A return to sanity, unlikely.

So GeeSussFreeK, the real issue with sanity isn't that someone stomped on someone's head, it's that liberals like me called it a stomp? Seriously, what the fuck are you smoking?
>> ^hPOD:
It's hard to take you seriously when you sensationalize, and you're smarter/better than needing to resort to such extremes. The people involved were stupid, to be sure, but you're making them sound like attempted murderers, and this is disingenuous at best.
The only words I've used to characterize the content of the video is the title...
Original: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn Member's Head
Current: Rand Paul Co. Coordinator Stomps on MoveOn Member's Head
What's disingenuous or misleading about either? Lauren Valle is a member of MoveOn. When I didn't know whether the guy was affiliated with Rand Paul, I said so. Now that I know he's not just a supporter, but someone who's part of the campaign organization, I updated it.
I know, must be the word stomp. Dictionary.com redirects stomp to stamp, so here's the definition they give:
stamp
–verb (used with object)

1. to strike or beat with a forcible, downward thrust of the foot.
   
2. to bring (the foot) down forcibly or smartly on the ground, floor, etc.
   
3. to extinguish, crush, etc., by striking with a forcible downward thrust of the foot (fol. by out): to stamp out a fire.
   
4. to suppress or quell (a rebellion, uprising, etc.) quickly through the use of overwhelming force (usually fol. by out).
   
5. to crush or pound with or as with a pestle.
   
6. to impress with a particular mark or device, as to indicate genuineness, approval, or ownership: to stamp a document with a seal.
   

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Completely uncalled for, but not curb stomping to be sure. I was expecting a cut from American History X, glad I didn't get what I expected. In as much as the right calls Obama a socialist, this is a curb stomping. A return to sanity, unlikely.

>> ^hPOD:

Stop using the word stomp, because that's not what happened. I've watched the video, so have many others. Want to see a stomp, watch American History X...there is a difference between what's in that video and someones head/neck being stomped on about the size of the Grand Canyon.


I don't get you guys. Three men grab a woman, push her to the ground, hold her there and then stomp on her head, giving her a concussion. The Lexington Police has sent Tim Profitt a summons to appear in court so a judge can decide if criminal assault charges are warranted.

Sure, it didn't work like it did in American History X where they put the guy's teeth on concrete first. It also didn't work like in Gears of War where the victim's head explodes like a blood-filled watermelon.

So because it doesn't look like exaggerated Hollywood violence, it's not a stomp?

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

In as much as the right calls Obama a socialist, this is a curb stomping. A return to sanity, unlikely.

So GeeSussFreeK, the real issue with sanity isn't that someone stomped on someone's head, it's that liberals like me called it a stomp? Seriously, what the fuck are you smoking?
>> ^hPOD:
It's hard to take you seriously when you sensationalize, and you're smarter/better than needing to resort to such extremes. The people involved were stupid, to be sure, but you're making them sound like attempted murderers, and this is disingenuous at best.

The only words I've used to characterize the content of the video is the title...

Original: Apparent Rand Paul Supporter Stomps on MoveOn Member's Head
Current: Rand Paul Co. Coordinator Stomps on MoveOn Member's Head

What's disingenuous or misleading about either? Lauren Valle is a member of MoveOn. When I didn't know whether the guy was affiliated with Rand Paul, I said so. Now that I know he's not just a supporter, but someone who's part of the campaign organization, I updated it.

I know, must be the word stomp. Dictionary.com redirects stomp to stamp, so here's the definition they give:

stamp
–verb (used with object)

1. to strike or beat with a forcible, downward thrust of the foot.
   
2. to bring (the foot) down forcibly or smartly on the ground, floor, etc.
   
3. to extinguish, crush, etc., by striking with a forcible downward thrust of the foot (fol. by out): to stamp out a fire.
   
4. to suppress or quell (a rebellion, uprising, etc.) quickly through the use of overwhelming force (usually fol. by out).
   
5. to crush or pound with or as with a pestle.
   
6. to impress with a particular mark or device, as to indicate genuineness, approval, or ownership: to stamp a document with a seal.