Except for Bush because the lamestream, liberal media was out to get him, right?

Just stop. Sarah Palin has said some ridonculous stuff that is brain numbingly moronic for presidential candidate, and it has nothing to do with gaffes or the media being "out to get her".

This isn't a gaffe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txfqWzGMgm

She doesn't have a freaking clue what she's talking about. Or this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rXmuhWrlj4

Can't name a single Supreme Court case she disagrees with?! Seriously?! She says any that takes away the states' right to determine their own laws. So Brown vs. Board of Education? Plessy V. Ferguson? Baily V. Patterson? Loving v. Virginia? Can't name a single one, huh? I totally get why she wouldn't name any of the above because of the political fallout, but then don't say idiotic stuff like any court case that infringes on states' rights is bad. She's not a moron. She's just not smart enough to be President, pure and simple.

>> ^bobknight33:

All Quaumtum was doing
is pointing out the blatant Bias the media has. He correctly points out that time after time after time after time after time the current fool called the president gets a pass every times he fucks up.
But the media will dog Palin on every opportunity they can.
When will you get your self absorbed heads out your asses and see the truth? You heads have been up you asses so long you all think you shit doesn't stink.

>> ^ponceleon:
Really quantum?
Defending her just makes you a troll. Please. I like you more than Shiny right now, just take it back and we can still be friends.

Liberals don't like this Dr. Cosby as much:


We Cannot Blame the White People any Longer

By Dr. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.

They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

"Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...".

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.

And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what?

And they won't spend $200 for "Hooked on Phonics."

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2?

Where were you when he was 12?

Where were you when he was 18, and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

And where is the father? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward. Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles (piercings) going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from?

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa.

I say this all of the time — it would be like white people saying they are European-American — that is totally stupid.

I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany, Scotland, England, Ireland, or the Netherlands.

The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa — so stop, already!

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap...and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed.

Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' — or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read.

We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks, have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

We have to start holding each other to a higher standard....

Thomas Jefferson was hardly left and mostly revolutionary. These inconvienent facts are as clear as day. The United States is meant to be Secular. Meaning wholly and unequivocally neutral on religion; "thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

-The First

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."[1]

-Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists Association.

The above which as I understand it was then interpreted by the Supreme Court to mean exactly that, a Wall of Separation between church and state. I shouldn't have to link specific cases but to name a few; Torcaso v Watkins 1961, McCollum v. Board of Education Dist. 71, Stone v. Graham, and of course Lemon v. Kurtzman.

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.[47]

-Treaty of Tripoli Article 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause_of_the_First_Amendment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_Church_and_State
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States

All this was for @quantumushroom.

Let's See:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Establishment Clause of the First Amendment
The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a national religion by the Congress or the preference of one religion over another, non-religion over religion, or religion over non-religion. Originally, the First Amendment only applied to the federal government. Subsequently, McCollum v. Board of Education, 333 U.S. 203 (1948) incorporated certain select provisions. However, it was not until the middle to late twentieth century that the Supreme Court began to interpret the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses in such a manner as to restrict the promotion of religion by state governments. In the Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994), Justice David Souter, writing for the majority, concluded that "government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion."[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

To her Credit, (and I can't believe I'm saying this), it doesn't say the words "Seperation of Church and State."

what's terrifying is that if she were running for a state board of education seat, she'd win.

I agree with a lot of what you say, and like I said in my reply -- it's common for the extremists on either side to be the loudest voices -- despite the fact that they're a vast minority.

There is no true "news" anymore, no matter which channel (or website) you visit, there is an ever present slant, being it right or left leaning, and some sort of agenda in play. The only TRUE method of absorbing news today is to listen to what both sides have to say, and coming to the middle ground on our own (which I try to do). For example, many sifters, diggers, or reddits will either love one opinion maker -- or hate them -- there is [almost] no middle ground. Example: Bill O'Riley is a XXXXX (you can fill in the blank), or the opposite occurs: Bill O'Riley is awesome! Same applies to Maddow, or Olbermann, etc. Fact is, Bill O'Riley is neither a XXXXX or awesome, he's just a person giving HIS opinion, some of which people will disagree with. But like anyone, there ARE things [people] will agree with him on, whether [they] like it or not. In either case, the truth lies somewhere between what Olbermann says and what O'Riley says for the sane people, as both have an agenda, clear or not. These tea-partiers are no different. Instead of getting annoyed by them, or hating them, or calling them all morons, you have to listen to what they have to say, and pick out the rational thoughts they have, not the ones infected by fear or hate. There ARE some things the tea-partiers say that makes sense, whether we like it making sense or not doesn't matter.

Oh, and I tend to ramble, too. Mostly because I like intelligent conversation.

The problem with the media, and the government today (either side), is that you will often see this, and I use this example because it's at the forefront of politics right now.

Republicans are often (almost always) accused of being an elite class of rich people protecting an elite class of rich people. You will often hear democrats regurgitate this, as if they're the voice of the middle class/under class people, which is what they market themselves as.

The problem I have with that is simple: Everyone in Washington (and I mean EVERYONE) and everyone that has a TV show (like Olbermann/Maddow), are VERY rich people. These very people ARE the elite they are supposedly protecting us from. So it's very insulting to me when they try to talk as if they're one of [us] (middle class). I've been to a few political events in my life that are non-party events (both Democrats/Republicans in attendance). It's quite amazing how much hate they spew at each other in the spotlight/on television, and now friendly they all are behind closed doors.

The republicans and democrats almost all universally care about one thing -- votes. And why wouldn't they when they're all paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to "fix" all the nations problems when all they end up doing is breaking it more with every change they make [for our sake]. Not to mention the back end 1 million plus dollar book deals they all end up having when they do get voted out and/or leave.



Sorry for rambling.

>> ^peggedbea:

hmmmm, i realize it's a geographic phenomenon and an example of a very vocal minority. but this phenomenon is having an impact on everything else (see the recent texas state board of education decisions), and i believe, a detrimental one at that.
and sure the only exposure to the media i have is through the internet, but it's also very sporadic and i'm generally pretty good at realizing hyped up bullshit when i see it.
let me clarify this last bit. i don't think they're misguided because they fear, hate, distrust the government. honestly, i think most of the time not trusting politicians is warranted and wise. BUT the trust they put in sources that intentionally misguide them("they" being the dozens of people that claim tea party affiliation that i have every day exposure to) is what i think is "misguided fear and distrust".
and yes, "authority" was just a device to emphasize that i speak to dozens of people with tea party affiliation every day, my family get-togethers are dominated by political conversations with tea baggers weekly, i hear loads of first hand "tea bagging nonsense" daily. i'm very curious, very friendly, and work a job where i go into peoples homes and a side effect is forging relatively intimate relationships with the whole household, so when my families are having these discussions (daily), i listen, and ask questions respectfully and try to seem unbiased. my experience is not from sensational news sources, but from the mouths of a movement i find misguided and threatening. my friends and family and neighbors and clients are scared. they tell me they're scared. and they're being scared by sources they trust and shouldn't and that makes me sad.
i think the most damning evidence that this far right, very vocal minority, is actually something to worry about is the texas state board of education. it was slowly infiltrated over the last decade or so by young earth creationists and the christian right. they planned it this way intentionally. the sources that fund the political campaigns of far right christian groups intentionally set their sites on the texas board of education because of the impact decisions in texas have on the rest of the country. the board of education votes every 10 years on new textbooks and new curriculum standards. because of how huge texas is, textbook publishers usually just sell whatever books texas orders to most of the other states in the country. this year the vote came up and and extreme far right political/religious agenda won. now, they have dictated the educational standards of an entire generation, very nearly nation wide.
also, another thing that makes me shudder is my city recently did a multimillion dollar renovation to the science museum. millions of those dollars came directly from oil and gas companies (that also silently fund the tea party movement). we now have a science museum in a major city that is largely dedicated to energy with zero mention of conservation, pollution or climate change. and almost zero mention of alternative sources of energy production in the future.
so my overall points being that, 1. i know,literally, dozens of people that claim tea party affiliation and i don't think any of them stupid or crazy. (but i think the movement as a whole is very stupid and very crazy and very deceptively steered, not individual people) 2. i don't think just because nationwide news outlets sensationalize things, that we can discount the very very real impact this extremely far right, mostly religious, and extremely loud minority is having.
but.. i ramble too.

hmmmm, i realize it's a geographic phenomenon and an example of a very vocal minority. but this phenomenon is having an impact on everything else (see the recent texas state board of education decisions), and i believe, a detrimental one at that.

and sure the only exposure to the media i have is through the internet, but it's also very sporadic and i'm generally pretty good at realizing hyped up bullshit when i see it.

let me clarify this last bit. i don't think they're misguided because they fear, hate, distrust the government. honestly, i think most of the time not trusting politicians is warranted and wise. BUT the trust they put in sources that intentionally misguide them("they" being the dozens of people that claim tea party affiliation that i have every day exposure to) is what i think is "misguided fear and distrust".
and yes, "authority" was just a device to emphasize that i speak to dozens of people with tea party affiliation every day, my family get-togethers are dominated by political conversations with tea baggers weekly, i hear loads of first hand "tea bagging nonsense" daily. i'm very curious, very friendly, and work a job where i go into peoples homes and a side effect is forging relatively intimate relationships with the whole household, so when my families are having these discussions (daily), i listen, and ask questions respectfully and try to seem unbiased. my experience is not from sensational news sources, but from the mouths of a movement i find misguided and threatening. my friends and family and neighbors and clients are scared. they tell me they're scared. and they're being scared by sources they trust and shouldn't and that makes me sad.

i think the most damning evidence that this far right, very vocal minority, is actually something to worry about is the texas state board of education. it was slowly infiltrated over the last decade or so by young earth creationists and the christian right. they planned it this way intentionally. the sources that fund the political campaigns of far right christian groups intentionally set their sites on the texas board of education because of the impact decisions in texas have on the rest of the country. the board of education votes every 10 years on new textbooks and new curriculum standards. because of how huge texas is, textbook publishers usually just sell whatever books texas orders to most of the other states in the country. this year the vote came up and and extreme far right political/religious agenda won. now, they have dictated the educational standards of an entire generation, very nearly nation wide.

also, another thing that makes me shudder is my city recently did a multimillion dollar renovation to the science museum. millions of those dollars came directly from oil and gas companies (that also silently fund the tea party movement). we now have a science museum in a major city that is largely dedicated to energy with zero mention of conservation, pollution or climate change. and almost zero mention of alternative sources of energy production in the future.

so my overall points being that, 1. i know,literally, dozens of people that claim tea party affiliation and i don't think any of them stupid or crazy. (but i think the movement as a whole is very stupid and very crazy and very deceptively steered, not individual people) 2. i don't think just because nationwide news outlets sensationalize things, that we can discount the very very real impact this extremely far right, mostly religious, and extremely loud minority is having.

but.. i ramble too.

There are times when I actually want these idiots to burn the Koran, ONLY because people who burn books of any kind come off as the most ignorant motherfuckers on the planet.

However, book burning would definitely bother me if it were government-sanctioned, a la Third Reich. Shit, the Texas State Board of Education might as well have burned history and science books.

I wouldn't worry about one idiot burning a book. I'd worry more about our government taking good books away from our kids.
A nation of morons --> a nation of slaves. One easy step.
>> ^blankfist:

Who cares if some goofy pastor wants to burn a book? Look, you can go online and find countless of examples of Islamic extremists burning flags and bibles and whatever else. It's stupid to burn a book, but it's even stupider and petty to let it bother you.
But if you burned an Amazing Fantasy #15 we'd have to talk about that.

>> ^gwiz665:

Also covered in the following
http://religion.videosift.com/talk/Texas-State-Board-of-Educ
ation-Rewrites-History
http://religion.videosift.com/talk/Hey-Texas-you-re-fucked



And: http://videosift.com/video/Don-McLeroy-The-Creationist-in-Charge-of-Education-in-Texas

But no one seemed to care when it was new news for some reason.

Also covered in the following
http://religion.videosift.com/talk/Texas-State-Board-of-Education-Rewrites-History
http://religion.videosift.com/talk/Hey-Texas-you-re-fucked

ahem, texans are throwing a screaming fit about this right now. one group is texas freedom network and you should give it all your money. seriously, those textbooks are going to effect 46-47 other states. so unless you want idiots running the country when you're old and shitting your pants, cough it up.

texas's local political scene, particularly the state board of education, was quietly, maliciously, slowly and deliberately infiltrated over the last decade by the radical christian right and is now flexing it arms because it has gained the power to do so. it is in constant battle with the state legislature. it's not like we all got together and agreed that god should run our school boards, it was a slow and sneaky process that happened while most people weren't watching. people do not pay enough attention to their local politics. this could have happened anywhere but, they targeted texas for the take over because it is so big and has the greatest influence on the rest of the country. google don mccleroy.

and i posted this a few weeks ago so *dupe

oh and having spent the most time in my life in either texas or southern california, i'd take texas any fucking day. houston is gross. but southern california is the gaping twat of america.

>> ^choggie:
^hence the reason to consider, (if you are in a country where your children can't be taken away form you by a corrupt "statist" indoctrination and control system) home-schooling your children-It's called survival of the fittest, mate, and most children being groomed for wage-slavery in the US will only survive when they do exactly as they are told in the coming shit-storm.
To address your, "this is your new curriculum. Deal with it" statement, ya WoW-addicted lackey, THAT is exactly what a modern-day government is good for-NOTHING BENEFICIAL TO A HUMAN, BEING.

Public indoctroeducation-disinformation created the robots who fill the planet with bullshit you are on now gwiz665-I suggest you stop working on your alcoholism, pry yourself away from the keyboard, expatriate to a climate and environs that will afford you some semblance of a "real" life.


Go fuck yourself.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
upvote for excessive use of shirts!


fuck you! i was going to say that!

I will anyways!!!

UPVOTE FOR SHIRTS...SHIT

anyways, awesome video. Glad to live in Canada, very far from Texas.

McLeroy is a dentist who was elected to the Texas State Board of Education. I've said it in other comments, but this man lacks the credentials to make policy decisions with regards to scientific education. Kenneth Miller, a biology professor at Brown University, has said that McLeroy's "fundamental misunderstanding of the way genetics and evolution have produced a unified science of biology is nothing short of breathtaking."

I would have no issues with this man pushing for better oral health in Texan schools, but he should not have anything to say on the issue of evolution.

P.S. His last line just pisses me off to no end. "We need to be honest with our kids." Yeah, because teaching your kids that your imaginary friend created the world in 6 days only 6000 years ago is honest. Teaching kids that someone can be born of a virgin is honest. Teaching kids that if you don't believe in your god you will burn in hell for eternity is honest. Give me a break!

I'll let wikipedia do the talking.

"The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a national religion by the Congress or the preference of one religion over another, or religion over non-religion. Originally, the First Amendment only applied to the federal government. Subsequently, under the incorporation doctrine, certain selected provisions were applied to states. It was not, however, until the middle and later years of the twentieth century that the Supreme Court began to interpret the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses in such a manner as to restrict the promotion of religion by state governments. For example, in the Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994), Justice David Souter, writing for the majority, concluded that "government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion"."