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How thieves steal keyless tech cars

spawnflagger says...

in @eric3579's 1st reply above, there is video of such a box that prevents this attack. Similar idea to a 'faraday cage', but they found that cardboard box lined with aluminum foil was most effective.

00Scud00 said:

I'm surprised that these things put out a strong enough signal to get out of the house. Maybe build a case for the fob that cuts off the signal unless you hit a button and exposes enough of it for the signal to get out?

2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Bel Air Crash Test

oritteropo says...

From the comments in 2009 when this crash test was first released, they won't believe it. People said that it was "obvious" that they had removed bolts and the engine from the Bel Air and that a real crash wouldn't go that way.

Even faced with evidence that modern cars are stronger, they will still say things like:

Engineering improvements or not, the sheer weight and gauge of metals used in the 50's is far superior to the aluminum foil they make cars out of now.


They probably won't believe this one either - https://videosift.com/video/Crash-tests-SUV-vs-Minivan-Which-one-does-better

HugeJerk said:

I know many people that always swear their old cars are safer in a crash because they're heavy and "solid". "The other car is my crumple zone."... I'll have to share this video to them.

Everyday Products You've Been Using Wrong

Stormsinger says...

I think he missed the mark on the Reynolds Wrap tabs. After running downstairs to try this, it seems what those tabs -really- do, is keep the roll from turning at all.

Mow I have to go buy another box...I smell someone with stock in aluminum foil.

Kids Witness Birth of Kraken

How to screw with the NSA. Which way is better? (User Poll by albrite30)

chingalera says...

Stand outside this address hurling feces at the windows-
9800 Savage Rd Fort Meade, MD 20755
(301) 688-6524

or, tie-up that switchboard asking Kenneth for the frequency....Prank call coordinated pizza delivery from every pizza haus within range...

Start building Faraday cages over all the houses on your block-

Flash-Mail thousands of envelopes to them stuffed with confectioner's sugar, baking soda, etc.

mail parcels filled with marzipan wrapped in aluminum foil with candy wires sticking-out...whole things edible-Big fun when they send the black SUV's to your front door and cordon off the block with swat-

Plant drugs in all the brass' cars them call the cops and the press at the same time...


*in Mr Roger's voice} "There's a lot you can do to make sure people are happy. What are some things you can think of to make those men in that concrete building happy?"

Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder flips over and wrecks

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Woman Makes Meth In Walmart

cito says...

Yea there is also a similar method



you may hear cops refer to it as the "Shake and Bake" method

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Materials : 1 box of pseudo-ephedrine pills, 1 Cold-Compress pack, a bottle of lye crystals, 2 AA energizer lithium batteries, Coleman fuel, Iodized salt, sulfuric acid or Muriatic acid, 2 20oz bottles, coffee filters, a clear hose about 6 - 12" long, funnel, 2 Pint Mason jars, and lineman pliers.

first off, make sure your working in a clean and safe area. Clean both of the 20oz bottles with some paper towels and a clothes hanger, rinse with Coleman fuel, and repeat. You want the bottles to be clean as possible to make clean dope.

After you clean one bottle, use your funnel and one coffee filter and put 8 oz of Coleman fuel in the bottle. Then, using your lineman pliers, obtain the lithium metal from the batteries, tear them small balls and put them in your fuel. After you get both your lithium strips in, add 3 tablespoons of crushed Ammonia nitrate from the cold compress pack, and 3 tablespoons of lye crystals. Shake the bottle and get a reaction going. After you get a good reaction add your crushed pseudo-ephedrine and let it cook for 45 minutes to an hour. Burping the bottle when it get tight. refrain from shaking the bottle in the during the last 15 minutes of the cook.

Their should be a good amount of copper "b.b.s" floating with your lithium strips. this is a good sign your cook is close to finished. Clean out the mason jar you have ready, and use 3-4 filters to filter off your cook into the mason jar.

Now its time to make a smoke bottle, either using sulfuric acid or Muriatic acid. Clean the 20oz bottle like before, and make a hole in the cap big enough for your hose. if your using sulfuric acid, add 1 tablespoon of salt to the bottle and just a couple drops of sulfuric acid. If your using Muriatic acid, put 3-4 balls of aluminum foil in the bottle and a couple drops of Muriatic acid. Put the hose right above your fuel in the mason jar and watch the dope drop.

Hit it with the smoke a couple times and stir it up until it doesn't drop anymore, then filter this into another mason jar, and you got your first pull in the filter. dry it out and test it. then take the fuel you poured off and put it back in the cook bottle. cook it for about 30 minutes and try for a second pull.

You should yield about a gram, to a gram and a half of Methamphetamine.
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That's the shake and bake for easy meth in a bottle, you can make it in an old soda bottle.

Electronic Pickpocket

eric3579 says...

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^eric3579:
>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.

That has nothing to do with my point. You're looking at it from the attackers' point of view. Of course someone using this exploit will successfully penetrate countless vulnerable victims. That goes without saying and is an indisputable fact of life.
I was speaking from a consumer's point of view. The salesman soliciting his magic RFID protective sleeves for something like 2 for $40 is getting rich on consumer fearmongering when all one might need to do is stick some foil in their wallet.


MY bad. I actually had only watched the first half of the video, and was unaware he was pushing a product. Don't I feel stupid.

Electronic Pickpocket

lucky760 says...

>> ^eric3579:

>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.


That has nothing to do with my point. You're looking at it from the attackers' point of view. Of course someone using this exploit will successfully penetrate countless vulnerable victims. That goes without saying and is an indisputable fact of life.

I was speaking from a consumer's point of view. The salesman soliciting his magic RFID protective sleeves for something like 2 for $40 is getting rich on consumer fearmongering when all one might need to do is stick some foil in their wallet.

Electronic Pickpocket

eric3579 says...

>> ^lucky760:
That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).


Even if there is a simple fix (aluminum foil) to this problem, and you ran commercials 24 hours a day regarding this situation, I'm guessing I could still use this to get thousands of credit card numbers. I might not get yours or a few others, but I will get a shit load.

Electronic Pickpocket

lucky760 says...

That guy got his products sold on Pitchmen (the show on Discovery that starred Billy Mays before his death). Seems like a gimmicky product to me if you can just stick some aluminum foil in your wallet or purse to prevent your RFID-embedded cards from getting scanned, and I believe you can (though I don't have a reliable source to cite).

Creating Hell in a pop-bottle with half a gram of water

quantumushroom says...

Did you type this with one hand (and one hook)?

>> ^PHJF:

Take a tough bottle (Simply Orange bottles are fantastic), pour some of The Works cleaner in it, and toss in some lightly-packed balls of aluminum foil. Put the lid on and wait for the magic.
Al + HCL -> AlCl + H2
Loudest thing I've ever heard.

Creating Hell in a pop-bottle with half a gram of water

Asmo says...

>> ^PHJF:

Take a tough bottle (Simply Orange bottles are fantastic), pour some of The Works cleaner in it, and toss in some lightly-packed balls of aluminum foil. Put the lid on and wait for the magic.
Al + HCL -> AlCl + H2
Loudest thing I've ever heard.


Try acetylene sometime (just fill a balloon and float it in to a fire, good to have hearing protection on when you do it).

The boom is quite something else.



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