>> ^Lowen:

>> ^NetRunner:
>> ^Lowen:
By the same logic Rachel uses, human sacrifice as practiced by the Aztec also worked.

By the same logic you're using, we should be deeply skeptical that vaccination works.

No, not really.


The logic Rachel is using is scientific method, established by experts in their respective fields. TARP did better than anyone ever dreamed it would. The stimulus created the number of jobs it was expected to, and health care reform is a massive improvement to the system on every front.

You're basing your comment on what logic, exactly? We did all this stuff, and nothing obviously good happened, therefore it must have had no effect?

Again, that logic implies you should be skeptical of vaccination. Nothing's wrong, they stick you with a needle, and then there's no apparent effect. Vaccines must be snake oil!

>> ^quantumushroom:

Conservatives don't "fire" conservative politicians for being too conservative, only for NOT being conservative. You're giving repubican "planners" way too much credit. The repubican party couldn't even seed repubicans worth a damn, and that's why they lost in 2006, punished by foolhardy conservatives who couldn't see past next week.
There was and is a majority of taxocrats in Congress. Theoretically any and all taxocrat bills should've passed.
Where did Bush fail? 1) The failouts 2) spending like a liberal, which fakeservatives should never do since, as obamalinksy proves, it's just not possible for even a RINO to piss away that much $$$ that fast.
Bad ideas and zero accountability sank the obama regime. not anything the right did.

>> ^raverman:
I have a theory. Everyone knows that politics cycles left to right. You can plan for it.
I think the republican party seeded democrats they have influence over in areas where they put weak republican opposition.
They could predict after G.W.B that democrats would be elected... so having ones that would flip their vote and side with republicans allows them to cripple the administration before it begins and guarantee the fastest return to power.



Who would you describe as "Conservative" in your Republican party by the way. Last time I checked there weren't any conservatives...just statists or extreme statists who believe the government should funnel all the money they can towards the corporations.

Can you name a single person in office or running for office right now who's actually a conservative? I doubt it...Try I'll be I can refute it pretty easily.

Conservatives don't "fire" conservative politicians for being too conservative, only for NOT being conservative. You're giving repubican "planners" way too much credit. The repubican party couldn't even seed repubicans worth a damn, and that's why they lost in 2006, punished by foolhardy conservatives who couldn't see past next week.

There was and is a majority of taxocrats in Congress. Theoretically any and all taxocrat bills should've passed.

Where did Bush fail? 1) The failouts 2) spending like a liberal, which fakeservatives should never do since, as obamalinksy proves, it's just not possible for even a RINO to piss away that much $$$ that fast.

Bad ideas and zero accountability sank the obama regime. not anything the right did.


>> ^raverman:

I have a theory. Everyone knows that politics cycles left to right. You can plan for it.
I think the republican party seeded democrats they have influence over in areas where they put weak republican opposition.
They could predict after G.W.B that democrats would be elected... so having ones that would flip their vote and side with republicans allows them to cripple the administration before it begins and guarantee the fastest return to power.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^Lowen:
By the same logic Rachel uses, human sacrifice as practiced by the Aztec also worked.

By the same logic you're using, we should be deeply skeptical that vaccination works.


No, not really.

>> ^Lowen:

By the same logic Rachel uses, human sacrifice as practiced by the Aztec also worked.


By the same logic you're using, we should be deeply skeptical that vaccination works.

Thanks for the quality.

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>> ^NetRunner:

Why do I have comments from two people who apparently didn't watch the video?


Because soon, watching things will be just like reading. Why sit and watch when you can have thoughts beamed into your brain in a fraction of the time?

Also *quality to piss off the neigh sayers

Health Care, TARP, Stimulus: They Worked! NOT!!!!!!!!!!

They did inflate the currency. The definition of inflation has nothing to do with the value of the currency. It has to do with the quantity of currency. The actions they've taken have increased the money supply. That's what I meant by the dollar is being irrationally overvalued. The markets haven't priced in their actions yet.

We do agree on the houses however. Oddly enough, that particular form of recapitalizing the banks was referred to as "moral hazard." So if a homeowner can't make good on his liabilities, bailing him out is "moral hazard." If a bank can't make good on its liabilities on the other hand...

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^bmacs27:
The fed can do little to remedy any of these problems, other than maybe inflating the currency so quickly that suddenly that salary everyone is used to making is palatable to employers. The fact is, they've already done that, it's just that the dollar is still irrationally overvalued (against, for instance, the yuan).
I think I'd characterize that as they tried to inflate the currency, but it didn't work.
Totally agree about buying up the houses though. Back during the TARP debate, that seemed like the most moral way to go about stabilizing the banks -- help out the homeowners, and thereby stabilize the banks.

>> ^bmacs27:

The fed can do little to remedy any of these problems, other than maybe inflating the currency so quickly that suddenly that salary everyone is used to making is palatable to employers. The fact is, they've already done that, it's just that the dollar is still irrationally overvalued (against, for instance, the yuan).

I think I'd characterize that as they tried to inflate the currency, but it didn't work.

Totally agree about buying up the houses though. Back during the TARP debate, that seemed like the most moral way to go about stabilizing the banks -- help out the homeowners, and thereby stabilize the banks.

So it's an attack on freedom for a Federal Judge to rule that a state amendment violates individual freedoms under the federal constitution? California... Homosexuals... Prayer... Insurance...

Arizona, California, Misouri, Florida... It doesn't matter. There are MANY examples, and the point is Obama's hyocrisy. He selectively chooses to stomp on things he doesn't like, while at the same time he gives free passes to real violations. The Black Panther case was a blatant violation of civil rights - but his administration dismissed it because in thier OPINION black people can't violate the civil rights of others.

The mosque is simply one note in the sad litany of his hypocrisy. He approves the mosque on the basis of limited involvement in city/state government as well as the bill of rights? This comes off as hypocritical to anyone who hears it given his extensive record of ignoring the rights in order to force feed his agenda at national, state, local, and individual levels.

Arizona wants to enforce legitimate laws & protect citizens? Louisiana wants to build sand berms? BP wants to bring in non-union oil skimmers? Texas want to lift my oil drilling ban? It's against the constitution to force people to buy my Obama brand insurance? Banks are refusing to take my TARP money? The people don't want my financial reform bill? The people don't want my Health Care reform bill? The people don't want my Cap & Tax schemes? The people don't want my plan for illegal amnesty? Bah! I'm Barak Hussain Obama and I disallow such freedoms in MY America!

Oh - but you radial Cordoba freaks can build your mosque at Ground Zero. No, you don't have to disclose where money comes from. No, I don't care this is a documented terrorist tactic. No I don't care Germany just shut down Cordobas because they were terror cells. No, I don't care that by definition a mosque can't possibly be a "community outreach center".

Anyone with eyes, ears, and a brain knows clearly that Obama LOVES to violate the constitution and interfere with state/local policy. But now all of a sudden he changes his mind and state's rights and religious freedom matter? Anyone living through this nightmare dud of a president knows he's being a two-faced slimeball on the issue and that his motivation is his personal bias. That's why he's getting shellaqued in the ratings, the polls, and even (albiet reluctantly) in the press.

I could list lots of decisions Obama has made that I don't agree with, but he got it right on this one and I hope to see more of it.

You won't. This was a biased decision to favor an opinion/ideology that he sympathizes with. As evidenced by just about EVERY other thing he's ever done, Obama will do the exact opposite on any issue he finds politically convenient.

Unfortunately they weren't the party of No when Bush started the socialist ball rolling with Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.

Sadly - neither Bush1 nor Bush2 were fiscal conservatives or constitutional constructionists. They belong firmly in a camp of Republicans called "Blue Bloods" or "RINOs" (Republican In Name Only). The Bushes were old school GOP members, and they all too often were for big government solutions. TARP, MedicareD, NCLB, Farm Subsidies, Education Bill, SCHIP... The list of big government spending programs that Bush2 pushed was as massive as even the most liberal Democrat spendthrift.

This is why Bush2 accomplished so many things in his Presidency (in a legislative sense). He was willing to sell the farm in order to get a coalition. So if he needed Democrat votes he'd just offer them anythign they wanted and the GOP just went along with it. Sigh. This country needs a good strong fiscal conservative to take the White House, Congress, and Senate and roll back government in a big way. It isn't 'business' that is killing our economy. It's government spending.

Unfortunately they weren't the party of No when Bush started the socialist ball rolling with Medicare Part D, TARP, etc.

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Crap! I was confused. I thought that "tarp" meant "carp".
As in, "Carp Surfing!!!!!!!!!" ...see? that would have been cool!

..maybe I was thinking of tarpon?

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