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HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

deedub81 says...

Seems to me that Matthews gave him a pretty fair shake. It was a very good dialogue.



>> ^gwiz665:
I like that Matthews didn't YELL OVER ASLAN'S STATMENTS as would certain other members of the press. Aslan (King of Narnia) is very straight and to the point here. It's nice to see a bit of competence in the news.

Farhad2000 (Member Profile)

enoch says...

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
Nentanyahu’s speech was Sunday. In it he said that he wanted Isreal recognized as a Jewish state.


You deal in half truths.

The recognition of Israel as a Jewish state means that there is no chance for any resettlement of Palestinians in those areas that Israel pushed them out of them. It means no right of return.

It means Israeli Arabs within Israel become second class citizens.

It means no land returns to those areas settled illegally by Israelis in Palestinian areas. Because de facto these are Jewish holy sites. Those should belong to Israel.

The conditions also required Palestine that has no military force. Nor has any control of it's own airspace.

It means Palestine as a state would simply exist as it does today, an open air prison ringed by military walls and incurred on by illegal settlements. It offers no compromise beyond making sure that the peace process continues to exist in a dead zombie state giving false hope to Palestinians while allowing Israel to further capture areas in the West bank through encroaching settlements.


this was GREAT my friend.
how many americans are aware of the machinations and subtrefuge by political lobbyists to control the information they see or read?
its just sad in its simplicity to rectify.
great response bud..fantastic!
till next time.
namaste.

cybrbeast (Member Profile)

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

Farhad2000 says...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
Nentanyahu’s speech was Sunday. In it he said that he wanted Isreal recognized as a Jewish state.


You deal in half truths.

The recognition of Israel as a Jewish state means that there is no chance for any resettlement of Palestinians in those areas that Israel pushed them out of them. It means no right of return.

It means Israeli Arabs within Israel become second class citizens.

It means no land returns to those areas settled illegally by Israelis in Palestinian areas. Because de facto these are Jewish holy sites. Those should belong to Israel.

The conditions also required Palestine that has no military force. Nor has any control of it's own airspace.

It means Palestine as a state would simply exist as it does today, an open air prison ringed by military walls and incurred on by illegal settlements. It offers no compromise beyond making sure that the peace process continues to exist in a dead zombie state giving false hope to Palestinians while allowing Israel to further capture areas in the West bank through encroaching settlements.

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

Winstonfield_Pennypacker says...

M'eh. The Iranian election was as predictable as the sunrise. The extremists who are in charge wanted "The Shrimp" re-elected and that's exactly what happened. Aslan can talk about diplomacy all he wants, but it is meaningless. Diplomacy with Iran has very little to do with whichever bozo gets the gig after their so-called 'elections'.

Proof positive in the pudding... Isreal. Netenyahu pretty much spiked any chance of a treaty with just ONE simple, reasonable little phrase... "Recognize Isreal as a Jewish state..." The hubub in the circles of 'diplomacy' is that such a pre-condition makes any hope of an agreement absolutely and unequivocally impossible. The only solution that will be accepted by the political world of the Middle East is the annihilation of Isreal as a state and the expulsion of all Jews from the region.

Now – how do you engage in ‘diplomacy’ with a position that is so extreme? Obama can make all the pointless speeches he wants, and a few eggheads like this guy might think he’s brilliant. They are all missing the point completely, which is sadly not atypical when this topic comes up. The point is that militant Islamists are the ones in charge and there is no possible way to successfully negotiate with a pack of half-insane, religious extremists whose only desired outcome is annihilation.

xxovercastxx (Member Profile)

enoch says...

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I sometimes disagree with Reza Aslan (usually on other topics I've seen him debate; I can't disagree with anything he says here) but he's no dummy. You better know your shit if you plan to argue with him.

>> ^gwiz665:
I like that Matthews didn't YELL OVER ASLAN'S STATMENTS as would certain other members of the press.


Funny, Chris Matthews is near the top of the list when I think about press members who do that. I think the only reason he didn't do it here is because he's outclassed by Reza, at least on this topic.

i misspeled matthews again didnt i?
good lord i suck..thanks man=)

siftbot (Member Profile)

enoch says...

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Tags for this video have been changed from 'chris mathews, hardball, reza aslan, Iranian elections, Obama policy' to 'chris matthews, hardball, reza aslan, Iranian elections, Obama policy' - edited by xxovercastxx
i misspelled matthews again didnt i?
good lord i suck..thanks man=)

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

siftbot says...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'chris mathews, hardball, reza aslan, Iranian elections, Obama policy' to 'chris matthews, hardball, reza aslan, Iranian elections, Obama policy' - edited by xxovercastxx

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

xxovercastxx says...

I sometimes disagree with Reza Aslan (usually on other topics I've seen him debate; I can't disagree with anything he says here) but he's no dummy. You better know your shit if you plan to argue with him.

>> ^gwiz665:
I like that Matthews didn't YELL OVER ASLAN'S STATMENTS as would certain other members of the press.


Funny, Chris Matthews is near the top of the list when I think about press members who do that. I think the only reason he didn't do it here is because he's outclassed by Reza, at least on this topic.

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

kulpims says...

>> ^gwiz665:
I like that Matthews didn't YELL OVER ASLAN'S STATMENTS as would certain other members of the press.

just proves how standards on what is good, objective journalism have fallen or rather, sank right to the bottom of the ocean of mediocracy. we should like matthews because most of his colleagues are even worse and because he let his guest finish his thought? give this man the Edward R. Murrow award! *sad

enoch (Member Profile)

RedSky (Member Profile)

HARDBALL-reza aslan takes mathews to school over IRAN

gwiz665 says...

I like that Matthews didn't YELL OVER ASLAN'S STATMENTS as would certain other members of the press. Aslan (King of Narnia) is very straight and to the point here. It's nice to see a bit of competence in the news.

Reza Aslan: US War on Terror 'Validated' Jihadists

quantumushroom says...

By Aslan's (wasn't that the lion in "Narnia"?) logic the USA declaring war against Germany in WW2 "validated" Nazism, by saying we were "good" and the Nazis "evil". In other words: "Let me mix up some philosophy-quoting refrigerator magnets so I don't have to get a real job".

I would respect these moral relativists more if they were sincere. For example, they see Americans and/or Westerners as no greater than jihadist throat-cutters, who are no doubt merely expressing their unique belief system with honor killings and homicide bombings.

The only people who find no room at the table with relativists are individualists favoring free markets, free speech and limited government.

The first thing Palestinians will do if given their own state is turn it into one giant launch pad for rockets aimed at Israel.

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us. --Golda Meir



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