Right.

Clearly she should be more like you--surfing the Internet and making judgmental pronouncements about people's lives based on what you've seen of them in a three-minute news clip. That'll be immensely "useful to humankind."

>> ^Velocity5:

@Trancecoach @Asmo @Gallowflak
"Not every pursuit needs to have some great utility."

We're really just talking about Disney's The Grasshopper and the Ants, based on Aesop's ancient parable.
She doesn't realize that in merely 10 years at her highschool reunion, as their youthful charm will have started to fade, the people who strove to build awesome, challenging careers will be the ones who have grown the most personally and intellectually.
Encouraging people to do "whatever they want" lays waste to what could have been great lives. Encourage them instead to build lives that are useful to humankind, in which they grow more and more every year.

@Trancecoach @Asmo @Gallowflak

"Not every pursuit needs to have some great utility."


We're really just talking about Disney's The Grasshopper and the Ants, based on Aesop's ancient parable.

She doesn't realize that in merely 10 years at her highschool reunion, as their youthful charm will have started to fade, the people who strove to build awesome, challenging careers will be the ones who have grown the most personally and intellectually.

Encouraging people to do "whatever they want" lays waste to what could have been great lives. Encourage them instead to build lives that are useful to humankind, in which they grow more and more every year.

If you give away your balls, old men give you sticks, I think that's an Aesop Fable.

You're gonna have to be more specific.>> ^Jinx:

Reminds me of a certain Aesop Fable.

Reminds me of a certain Aesop Fable.

Well written, but still factually biased. I don't dispute it takes a certain amount of faith to believe in something, but saying it takes more faith to believe in science over a religion is laughable, seeing as how most scientific processes can be duplicated in a lab, and the only time people see the immaculately concepted Jesus is in stale bread.

Calling them "errors" is an error, if you cant prove it so...

I don't even want to get started with your "#2" ...but I will touch on it:

"It is He [God] who sits above the circle of the Earth." Job also talked about the earth being round."
You mean to tell me that it wasn't the sun he probably was referring to? It is a very vague statement, loosely translated. I mean, wasn't the voyage of Christopher Columbus nearly defunded by the Queen of Spain due to the fact most of the Catholics believed the earth was flat? How could they possibly misinterpret such a factual document as the Bible then but not now, or at any other time?

#3 is also a gross interpretation of the bibles factuality, the closest thing people had to a science was alchemy if I'm mistaken, and there is a reason we don't teach Alchemy 101 these days. It was full of holes where we as a species didn't have an understanding of our own surroundings. Take beer brewing for example, even the German purity laws had to be amended to allow yeast as a viable and lawful ingredient to beer because the humans of the past flat out didn't understand or fathom its use/need in the brewing process because it had been introduced naturally to the unaware brewers since beer has been around. <-Thank you science, not the all knowing bible. External sources are just as unreliable then as they are now, if not more so, smart people expect some credibility, and aren't the type to blindly accept.
#4 "The history of the bible is made up, it is just mythology"
Most people don't dispute the correlation of events in the bible to that of actual history, its just obvious that either initially or over the years, the truth was embellished to that of an Aesop fable. The bible was meant to instill fear into the hearts of what are supposed to be "god fearing" people, what better way then writing about a hellish environment and 30 ft tall giants? (wait, was that part real, or no?) Oh and Nelson Glueck wrote that quote? Impressive... unless you consider the thousands of other scientists that have a slightly different opinion on the matter...

But I guess you can laugh at me while I burn in hell (decompose) and you are in heaven (decomposing) It would make much more sense if people would accept the fact that "God" no matter how you look at it, is just a manifestation of our own self righteousness as a species? That being said, please think "peace" and I to wish all of us a hearty blessing from "God."



>> ^shinyblurry:

It takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian. I'll point out some common errors and misconceptions that atheists have.
Atheist error #1 Translation upon translation has corrupted the original bible so now we don't know what it actually said
The truth: Today there survives more than 25,000 partial and complete, ancient handwritten manuscript copies of the New Testament alone, not to mention hundreds of Old Testament manuscripts that survive today dating back to as early as the third century B.C. These hand written manuscripts have allowed scholars and textual critics to go back and verify that the Bible we have in our possession today is the same Bible that the early church possessed 2,000 years ago.

Atheist error #2 The bible is only confirmed by the bible, there is no outside external verification
The truth: There are over 39 sources outside of the Bible that attest to more than 100 facts regarding Jesus’ life, teachings, crucifixion, and resurrection. External sources verify that at least 80 persons from the bible were actual historical figures, 50 people from the Old Testament and 30 people from the New Testament. This includes Pontius Pilate, Caiaphas the High priest, and King David.
Atheist error #3 The bible is unscientific
The truth: The bible contains no scientific errors. In fact, it reveals a number of facts about the Universe that simply were not known at the time. For instance, the bible states that the Sun is on a circuit through space, yet scientists at the time thought it was stationary. Even more amazing, the bible states the Earth is round when everyone else thought it was flat:
Isaiah 40:22 says, “It is He [God] who sits above the circle of the Earth." Job also talked about the earth being round.
This was 300 years before aristotle. The bible was over 2000 years ahead of its time. It was also widely thought at the time that the Earth was carried on the back of something else, like a turtle or the greek god Atlas. The bible taught the truth: Job 26:7 “He [God] hangs the Earth on nothing.” Scientists did not discover that the Earth hangs on nothing until 1650.
Another amazing fact that the bible uncovered far before man discovered the facts is that the number of stars is as the sand in sea.
Jeremiah 33:22 “The host of heaven [a reference to the stars] cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured.”
Before the telescope was invented, man was able to number the stars. The count was usually just over 1000. That was the prevailing scientific knowledge until the telescope was invented. The bible revealed though that there were more stars than anyone could count.
Atheist error #4 The history of the bible is made up, it is just mythology
The truth: In every instance where the Bible can be, or has been checked out archaeologically, it has been found to be 100% accurate. The Bible has proven so accurate that archaeologists often refer to it as a reliable guide when they go to dig in new areas.
Nelson Glueck, who appeared on the cover of Time magazine and who is considered one of the greatest archaeologists ever, wrote: “No archeological discovery has ever controverted [overturned] a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries.”
The fact is there have been more than 25,000 discoveries within the region known as the "Bible Lands” that have confirmed the truthfulness of the Bible.
So there are just some of the common misconceptions atheists have concerning the bible. If you had any of these misconceptions then I venture that you must re-evaluate your position. God bless.


*Edited punctuation at 23:40 5/2/2011

Aesop just rolled over in the grave.

Seeing that its original format was in Korean I would have to guess that the story was embellished quite a bit. Korean internet users likes to make up inspirational stories for some odd reason. And they usually never fact check the sources. Imagine a whole culture obsessed with Aesop's fables and the likes, the kinds that teaches you a lesson or makes you emotional. All that gay jazz...

Still, story was told well. Upvote.

Slow and steady wins the race. - Aesop

I will have my Associates in Arts general transfer in December. After that, I'm back to the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. I'm fond of English, History, Anthropology, and Political Science, so it'll be interesting to see where I narrow it down to. I dropped out of Hotel Administration in Las Vegas after working at the Hard Rock Hotel/Casino.

Great poll. *quality

How the hell did miss that Aesop's Fable?

Well, I'd take the argument that nothing created everything over a big invisible man in the sky created everything...and then went on to send his benevolent cannibalistic zombie son to earth to save us all, which of course is still him, and when he dies, he is also still God.

Which is more rational? Those of the "I'm not sure yet, we haven't figured everything out yet, and we probably never will" school of thought or the "I know everything because my God told me so and he wrote a brief synopsis that is very similar to Aesop's Fables" school of thought?

>> ^PHJF:
I just it when religious nuts cite the bible like it's some sort of divine How To book.


If read properly it's more like Aesops's Fables. Good, clear lines on morality and common sense. In some ways... It doesn't explain why people would destroy other cultures or races because an omnipresent being said they were chosen to go forth and conquer.

It's ok, though, because they were just following orders.

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