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>> ^zombieater:

I wonder how many mpg that sucker gets...


more like gpm

-- Gunshots fired into #bahrain protesters, injured have fallen as they try to enter pearl square
-- Army firing live ammo from anti-aircraft guns from APC's at protesters #bahrain
-- Protesters were carrying flowers saying they wanted to deliver it to police. Were shot instead. Blood on street now #bahrain
-- @AP photg saw at least 4 injured and 1 dead. V bloody #bahrain
-- Protesters reached the #lulu square, sat down and army shot into them again #bahrain

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Someone knows their firearms.
If I may offer and WADR, the Krummlauf option was offered for the MG42 and the STG44 with the "I"(as was correctly stated by radx) used by the infantry and a "P"(Panzer) variant for tanks. Barrels were issued in 30, 45, 60, and 90 degree curves. The 30 was quite accurate, under 1.5 MOA, and all practically accurate. Barrel life was limited, as already stated, with the 30 degree barrels rated roughly at 300 rds and the 45 degree at approximately 160 rds. I have seen one fired and a couple on film. Truly an influential design. Kalashnikov borrowed the gas system for the AK for instance.
>> ^radx:

[Geek]You know where the need for this modification supposedly arose?
Tanks designed without means for CQC/infantry suppression, particularly the Elephant, a heavy tank destroyer based on spare parts of the Porsche Tiger after Henschel's design was chosen. Great armor, immense firepower, piss-poor mobility - and no MG. So they developed the "Maschinenpistolen-Vorsatz P": a weapon system to be fitted on the StG44 which allowed the crew to cover blind spots from within the tank. It consists of a barrel bent 90 degrees, a periscope, an adapter and a hull mounting.
"Vorsatz I" (or J, can't remember) used a barrel bent at 30 degrees and was supposed to be used from within open-topped APCs as well as in urban combat, though it took about a minute to put it onto your rifle and the barrel was useless after 150-300 rounds. I imagine the 45 degree version was to be used in the same manner.
Rheinmetall still have some in their collection.[/geek]

[Geek]You know where the need for this modification supposedly arose?

Tanks designed without means for CQC/infantry suppression, particularly the Elephant, a heavy tank destroyer based on spare parts of the Porsche Tiger after Henschel's design was chosen. Great armor, immense firepower, piss-poor mobility - and no MG. So they developed the "Maschinenpistolen-Vorsatz P": a weapon system to be fitted on the StG44 which allowed the crew to cover blind spots from within the tank. It consists of a barrel bent 90 degrees, a periscope, an adapter and a hull mounting.

"Vorsatz I" (or J, can't remember) used a barrel bent at 30 degrees and was supposed to be used from within open-topped APCs as well as in urban combat, though it took about a minute to put it onto your rifle and the barrel was useless after 150-300 rounds. I imagine the 45 degree version was to be used in the same manner.

Rheinmetall still have some in their collection.[/geek]

That's so awesome.

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apc?
http://videosift.com/video/a-perfect-circle-the-outsider-renholder-mix

apc?
http://videosift.com/video/a-perfect-circle-the-outsider-renholder-mix

apc?
http://videosift.com/video/a-perfect-circle-the-outsider-renholder-mix

Eerily similar to the APC Robot from Judge Dredd.

http://www.myprops.co.uk/ABC.JPG

APC has pretty good UPSU, you can probably find a 600watt rated one for around $80. If you're just looking to avoid damage a good surge protector will do the same thing, but an UPSU will make it so you've got enough time to save anything and properly shut your machine down, or if you're in an area that suffers from the occasional brown out it'll keep you going till the power comes back on. I actually use one for my broadband modem as well as my desktop so my internet doesn't die either.

I'd check your local office supply store, they always seem to have them on sale.

I *know* this will be long. But understanding things should never be allowed to be reduced to sound bites and short sentences.

Police raided a school as an exercise? Not even some warrents? Sounds like some individuals whom need to be held accountible for their jobs. Which could be fines, jail time, lose of job, and so on. People make mistakes, and do dumb things. Can you honestly say you haven't done dumb things in your life so far?

The narrator is trying to use fear, to get the proper response out of you, the audience. To some degree, as with posters above, he succeeds at the task. He uses a collection of words and phrases, and links them to imagery, sounds, and even old pictures. In ways, this concept is known as NLP, or, Neuro-logical programming (look it up in wikipedia, its both fascinating and scary stuff).

Police have to keep up with technology and tactics, as their duty in our country, is to up hold the law. The legistators create laws, the executive signs such law in to effect. Its the law enforcement (i.e. the police, FBI, and other local/state/federal agencies) whom maintain the law. The justices decide on whether the laws are within Consitituional limits, or if they breach them. All these sets of checks & balances do not work, if the citizens of the country let in to the fear this narrator wants you to feel. I know the police in my town. Friendly bunch whom work very hard to keep things normal and safe. They are very much studied and watched. We pay them very well, and make sure they have the proper tools to do their job correctly, honestly, lawfully, and to be responsible.

The 'police state' effect, that the narrator talks about, did come in to effect during the Bush Administration. The US Patriot Act was passed in to law very quickly, shortly after Sept. 11, 2001. One of its passages allowed the goverment to circumvent the 4th Amendment, allowing the White House to 'spy' on over 300 million Americans. This was conducted in an effort to catch and eliminate "...those whom are a threat to our country." This narrator does not hold Mr. Bush, nor the White House accountible to each and every time, this action took place.

If I recall the issue of military 'APC's for Waco, Tx correctly. The Branch Davidians were holed up in a central structure compound with numberous fire arms. Now, this by itself was not illegal. The agents conducting the warrents and arrests initally were met with the civilian sold version of the Barrett M82A1 'light fifty' rifle. This weapon, to my knowledge, is a single shot weapon (the military version can fire rounds from a magizine....I think?). I'm sure the gun nuts on here could inform us, of the gun's name. Anyways, this weapon, like its military cousin, could blow holes through armored police cars. The APCs were used to conduct operations and hopefully bring the matter to a non-violent conclusion. As the history books show, this did not happen. But the police, and FBI, did not racket up their skills and tools in a vacuum. After the event was over, there were a number of studies on the issue, and people held properly (depending on one's viewpoint I guess) of their actions and inactions that led to the events.

If you, the citizen really are consern about the nature of the police or law enforcement, then why not go visit the police. Talk to them, become active in your community and seriously look at how a police state could be formed, and take proper, legal, honest action to oppose it. Believe it or not, the police I know, are AGAINST a police state. And they are in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (since, some of you conversatives think us Mass residents are all commie, liberal, socialistic, islamic happy, tree hugging, yuppy, homosexual liking, religios hating, psych-paths....did I leave anything out?). In fact, thsoe whom are liberal REALLY are against the police state. We voted to remove Republicans at the federal level, out of office (since the Bush admin *IS* Republican).


Finally, recall its Thomas Jefferson that said, (paraphrasingly) that if we are afraid to speak our minds in pursuit of our nations freedoms and equalities, then we allow tyranny to win.