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If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786

While the people retain their virtue and vigilence, no administration, by any extreme of wickedness or folly, can very seriously injure the government in the short space of four years.
Abraham Lincoln

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams in a speech to the military in 1798

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
Thomas Jefferson

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise.
Abraham Lincoln

The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.
Martin Luther King Jr.


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shinyblurry says...

I was just listing the major reason why I am not a republican. I generally agree with conservative values, and I take conservative positions on most social issues, but I also disagree with a few things so that's why I'm not a member of that party. In regards to Mitt Romney, he seems like he does care for the poor. I think he is a pretty likeable guy, for the most part. That's isn't the reason I am not voting for him, however. The reason I am not voting for him is because he is an elder in the Mormon church. His family has been connected with it since the church started, and one of his relatives helped construct the first temple. A Romney presidency means that the elders of the Mormon church will be running this country, and that isn't something that I as a Christian can support.


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If Romney doesn't care about the Poor, why has he spent his money AND HIS PERSONAL TIME serving and helping them?

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>> ^cosmovitelli:

Shiny and QM face facts: you're both too smart to stick with these evasive, ideologically motivated destroyers for much longer.
Sadly, the actual, mediocre, boring effort to do things as well as possible is all there is for us.. No amazing plan, no secret trick to simultaneously give & keep trillions, no 'wealth creators'..
Just a big pile of flawed people, some of whom are trying to make the world more relaxed, open and productive.
And some are solipsists who want OUT in any way they can imagine it might be possible - extreme wealth, private land, preferential treatment by the supernatural, sexual conquest, fame, power over others..
..or all of the above and then still desperately hurting defenseless hungry uncared-for children to acquire ANOTHER billion.. (and then trying to flee further from the anger and the pain they have unthinkingly perpetuated..)
Ryan and Romney are taking fuck you to the next level.


I'm not on board for the Romney/Ryan ticket. I'm not a republican because they don't care about the poor and a few other reasons. I'm not a democrat because it is the party of secular humanism. I cannot in good conscience vote for either candidate this election.


JiggaJonson says...

You hit the nail on the head with that. Some people build up their credibility with good research and unbiased discussion, some people refuse to listen to new evidence and dont consider the opinions of others

I put Penn Jillet in that fuirst group, Glenn Beck in the second.

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Yeah, it doesn't matter what's being said, just who is saying it, right?
If somebody is deemed "not worth listening to" then I don't care what they say.

>> ^NetRunner:
BR>Jillette is the only person here worth listening to, but I didn't really hear a concrete solution from him.

NetRunner says...

That's actually just a quote. I've been thinking it's time to change it, since it more fit the tone of being an underdog.

Anyways, the problems you cite with state budgets is a direct consequence of the Great Depression-style economy conservatives have created.

Roll your eyes if you like, but tell me, how will cutting unemployment benefits, laying off teachers, fire fighters, nurses, and police officers help the economy?

As for liberal Texas, that's actually been the thing us liberals have been eying quite carefully. The demographic trends in Texas suggest that Obama may carry Texas in 2012. If not then, then the next Democratic candidate in 2016.

I didn't even know Democrats had anything like a majority at the state level. That's pretty cool. Si se puede, I suppose.

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