VoodooV

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"if I could" I would like to beat up defenseless women. It's not a threat, It's just a fantasy of mine.

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BoneRemake says...

I find a Corporation exists to make money, a business exists to make jobs,pay salaries,care about its employees and their well being,cry when employees are sad,celebrate when employees are happy ! as well as work towards a better outcome for all involved, which includes making money.

A soulless corporation is more defined by what your last message inferred, a small family owned business is more on the lines of what I mean by business although technically speaking there is not much of a difference, and yet there is. I hope your sentence " should we "let go" citizens who aren't productive and "hire" better citizens " was in jest, as that is a very far stretch from my original words. Where would we put them ? Hawaii ?

" You failed at being American, GTFO !"
-deported to Hawaii

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In reply to this comment by BoneRemake:
With respect, how is the country not like a business ? What is it like, comparatively that is, and please do not respond with " a country " .

In reply to this comment by VoodooV:
while I disagree with the "country is like a business" part...the rest of what you said is pretty accurate.

We elected them to do a job....they best do it.


Holy crap. I can barely read what I'm typing. Anyway, to answer your question. A business exists to make a profit. I would LIKE to say a business exists to serve it's customers but we know it's not true. A country exists to serve and protect its citizens. I don't think I can compare it to anything else.

Should we "let go" citizens who aren't productive and "hire" better citizens?

A10anis says...

Actually i have seen debates-where there has been a vote after-and Hitch has swayed a large amount of people. The more people who listen to him, and ignore their bias, the better off we will be.
Also, the people who dislike him do so because, in every debate, he has applied logic, intelligence and common sense. I do not recognise your comment that people want "revenge on Christianity." People simply want the theists to get on with their lives, keep their dogma to themselves, stay out of politics and schools, and leave the rest of us to get on with ours lives. You ask "how do you convince people that god has no place in government?" That's simple, get them to study the constitution, read jefferson and payne, and listen to Hitch. I stand by my initial comment because Hitch would have destroyed their false sense of theological superiority. Forget protocol, some people need to be embarrassed to wake up, and, if you deserve it, Hitch is just the man for the job.
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>> ^A10anis:

This is why we need Christopher Hitchens. He would have destroyed their childish premise with one or two cruise missile sentences.


I hate to say it, but I disagree. As much as I love Hitchens. You can't convince mouthbreathers to use reason instead of faith when it's coming from someone like Hitchens. From their point of view, he is everything they hate, the "condescending college boy who uses big words and thinks you're dumb" stereotype is misused a lot but it's still an effective method of generating hate and distrust.

Hitchens is the perfect example, IMO, of someone who only convinces people who are already convinced. Just like all the people on the other side who will reaffirm the beliefs of people who already believe in god, but will never convince a single atheist that there is a god.

This is the question that needs to be answered: How do you take someone who has believed in god all their lives and slowly convince them that god has no place in gov't. People have a right to believe whatever they want so I don't really care about what religious people do on their own time, the central argument is to remove their influence from gov't and public education. That's all.

I don't think we need...or want..people who can be easily pigeonholed into that stereotype of someone who just wants revenge on Christianity. I think Silverman did a great job of not being confrontational, respectfully disagreeing and keeping his cool throughout the whole ordeal.

Atheism has a serious PR problem that needs to be corrected and billboards won't fix it. Making lawsuits claiming kids are traumatized by the Pledge of Allegiance won't do it. They need to pick their battles better and represent themselves far better than they are currently doing

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