Palin: "We're going to fix it!!"

How?

"By fixing it?"

But these are human beings. How will we fix these problems without putting people through terrible circumstances?

"We're gonna, you betcha!!"

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You would really think she would have gotten beyond sound bites by now and at least given thought to how she will stand on her key issues. She seems no more prepared now as she did back in that disastrous katie couric interview...

I love how these apocolypse nuts are getting so delusional. Frost line, Go right ahead, you betcha, i'll be defendin' my patch of apocolypse corn so be careful where your wanderin' the t2000 will own everything below the frostline..everybody knows that.

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>> ^NetRunner:
>> ^rougy:
Oh! Who will save us from this inequity!
If only we had a majority in the executive, senatorial, and congressional branches.
Then, by golly we'd change things, you betcha!

I'm not sure what you think will help. Apparently your idea of changing the world is to go around sniping at me sarcastically, even when all I do is assign a channel.
But then, I guess you're not alone. A lot of people act like insulting me the best way to fix a broken system that I didn't create and don't support.


Just giving you shit, NR.

No insult intended.

>> ^rougy:
Oh! Who will save us from this inequity!
If only we had a majority in the executive, senatorial, and congressional branches.
Then, by golly we'd change things, you betcha!


I'm not sure what you think will help. Apparently your idea of changing the world is to go around sniping at me sarcastically, even when all I do is assign a channel.

But then, I guess you're not alone. A lot of people act like insulting me the best way to fix a broken system that I didn't create and don't support.

>> ^NetRunner:
money
politics
lies (discusses the lies and propaganda that run rampant about class)
quality


Oh! Who will save us from this inequity!

If only we had a majority in the executive, senatorial, and congressional branches.

Then, by golly we'd change things, you betcha!

>> ^thinker247:
While I am one to never believe anything my government tells me, I find it highly improbable that anybody but the 19 hijackers caused the events of September 11th. But to play devil's advocate, let me for a minute suspend my belief and agree with the "truthers" that my government perpetrated an act of terrorism against itself.
Why?
In order to invade Afghanistan to plunder its oil? We already had bin Laden on the FBI's Most Wanted List for the bombings of U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. We easily could have invaded under the pretense of finding and extracting bin Laden (and the Taliban and al-Qaeda), because that's exactly what we did after September 11th.
In order to invade Iraq under the banner of anti-terrorism? Hussein had already defied U.N. weapons inspectors for over a decade and Bush was never the type to ask permission, so we didn't need September 11th to justify illegally invading a sovereign nation. We did it anyway.
In order to enact greater restrictions upon the citizens by inducing their fear response? Hell, as a general populace we're lemmings. The Bush administration certainly did not need to kill 3000 people in order to take away our liberties. We gladly give them up whenever anybody in authority asks.
I have yet to hear a rational answer to the question of "Why?" But I'm all ears.


niiiice.
ask a question and then propose possible hypothesis which of course you then dismantle.
let me preface this by stating i am not a "truther" and am not as convinced as my friend rougy is concerning 9/11.
that being said,the US government has never,in my opinion,given this a proper investigation.
let me give you an example:
lewinsky and the impeachment of bill clinton =168 million dollars.
9/11 investigation=6 million dollars
and lets be clear here.the governments version of what happened on 9/11 is itself a conspiracy theory and one that does not hold up well under closer scrutiny.
who is responsible? i do not know and neither do you but i think it prudent to not only ask questions but be allowed to ask those questions.
agree?
now...
as for YOUR question thinker247.
why?
i presume you are asking for motive.
ok.
1.lusitania
2.reichsthag
3.gulf of tonkin
these are all false flag operations and all preceded war.WW!,WW2 and vietnam respectively.i could mention the oil embargo on japan but that is a lengthy conversation.
what ARE the motives for war?
they have always been unequivocally about:
1.land/labor/resources/trade
how does a government,crown or ruling entity get its poorest,least educated and therefore most expendable to go fight and die for something the ruling class wishes?
1.propaganda.
which creates a "fighting spirit".
for thousands of years religion was the impetus to create this spirit but for the last hundred years it has been nationalism but it is ALWAYS the F>E>A>R that is the true driving force.
now that we have established a basis for war let us get to the heart of your question.
since i am not privy to secret documents i must make my answer based on conjecture.i shall do my best.
why would the US government use 9/11 (by action or by proxy) to change 200 years of national defensive posturing to one of "pre-emptive" and declare a war,not on any person or nation but one against an ephemeral opponent?the "war on terror".
1.war is HUGE business and the DOD has been one of the top 10 lobbyists since 1962.
2.saddam hussein,having been bombed for over 10 years straight(fact,look it up) along with sanctions and that ridiculous "oil for food" threatened to change iraq's oil transactions from the american dollar to the euro(fact,look it up)which would have cost the US billions if not trillions.seeing that every oil transaction is done in american dollars.it is the world reserve currency (not for much longer).
3.uzbekisthan has one the last and richest oil and natural gas left in the world.a pipeline which was denied by turkey (that has since changed,but for europes benefit,not america) is being built right now...
where?
ill give ya a guess.
iraq.
and do you know where it will lead into?
want to try another guess?
afghanistan.

those are just a few off the top of my head.i could take the time to be more concise and specific but this is a comment section.
maybe we have differing political philosophies thinker247.i do not trust government nor power because that power historically has ALWAYS attempted to garner more power for itself at the expense of liberty,freedom and the common good of society.
so while i dont think the US government attacked the twin towers,i believe they ALLOWED it.
what evidence do i have? none.and any evidence we could have gotten has been destroyed.
but i was military for a number of years and unless they have gotten lazy and stupid there is no way that would have happened.
could i be wrong?you betcha.
but unlike you i do not trust government and neither should you because historically,governments will abuse whatever powers they have and take your rights away as fast as they are allowed to.
might i recommend:
1.bryzinski "the grand chessboard"
2.naomi klein "the shock doctrine"
3.chalmers johnson "blowback"
hell...just go the PNAC website they practically lay it out for you and that minority controlled the government for 8 years.
history is the greatest teacher and it is your friend.
i have enjoyed this conversation thinker247.

^You betcha! Not politics as usual!

>> ^JiggaJonson:
>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
It's because Fox news sucks WP. In comparison, the other news sources don't seem to suck as much
I suggest that is because you aren't looking at them critically because you like what they are saying and so you've chosen to put your blinders on. Since Fox's bias is one you DISlike then you are hyper-sensitive to it, and you choose at that point to take the blinders off.

Any bias is bad in the news (ideally). I dont think that it's just that I don't disagree with the bias, just that it's SO BLATANT.


EXACTLY!
the fourth estate is a failed institution,brought to all of us in part by the machinations of one michael powell,head of the FCC in 1993,and media conglomerates wanting to monopolize ALL media.
ruper murdoch is only ONE in a small group of FIVE that own ALL of american media.
that is one mighty big bullhorn,one which i choose to not listen to.

what i find ironic in mr pennypackers comments is this:
he states that he does not buy into the polemic(us vs them)and then uses a POLEMIC to make his case against the so-called "neo-libs"(really mr pennypacker,look the definition up please)on videosift.
hypocrisy? you betcha...

i do wholeheartedly agree that there is an US vs THEM,but not in the way the corporate media likes to portray it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative
on one side,and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
on the other.
this is a media created polemic,a falsely created juxtposition that does not have the inherent divisiveness that we have been forced to accept over the years.
the real US is the average person,doing there best to survive in a seemingly more volatile world.most of US dont have time to vette every story we see on the news.this is a basic fundamental question of trust:do we "trust" corporate news?
answer:no..we dont.they as an institution have failed to instill the necessary ingredients for trust.at one time they did,but in the late 70's news went from "non-profit" to "profit",and since we have seen a devolution of news quality and veracity.thats why we see 24 hr coverage of anna nicoles death and not more pertinent news pieces.we are partly to blame for this digression.
THEM are those who seek to gain profit and political influence by manipulating the masses.FOX news is the most egregious benefactors of this type of malfeasance,led by one rupert murdoch.while not alone in media machinations,they are by far the worst offenders.

whenever i see comments about corporate media i think of this short video,if you have not seen,or read noam chomsky's "manufacturing consent" watch this vid.it states quite well my thoughts:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Noam-Chomsky-on-Freedom-and-Future
thank you and good night

You betcha, inflatedvajajay!

In reply to this comment by thinker247:
Quit self-posting!

US supplied aircraft and arms. The US is a neutral negotiating party. Really. Yeah. You betcha *wink wink*.

The uncensored original clip is also on the sift:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Turkeys-Slaughtered-in-Background-of-Palin-Interview#comment-587487

I love this description (on a page which also hosts the uncensored original):

http://thesuperficial.com/2008/11/sarah_palin_answers_you_betcha.php

"Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has answered a resounding "You betcha" to the question "Can she be anymore oblivious?" After pardoning a turkey for Thanksgiving, Governor Palin gave a surreal interview with a local news team yesterday - right in front of a dude slaughtering turkeys. Amazing. My favorite part is the look on the guy's face as he realizes "Wow, you're really going to do this." Then gets back to work because it's Alaska, and it's fucking cold out.

In the meantime, someone needs to tell Sarah Palin's the elections over, so she can stop reciting the words John McCain wrote on the inside of her eyelids ad nauseum. Jesus, lady. I don't see how Todd Palin doesn't spend the majority of his day purposely getting rammed in the ear by snowmobiles. Unless he's somehow immune to shrill."

If I were the anti-Drudge, my Drudge alarm would be screaming:

CIVIL WAR IN THE G.O.P

I think the McCain people are pissed at Palin's attempts to distance herself from the loss, and not-so-subtle attempts to lay a groundwork for a 2012 run.

Since they're Republicans, rather than give interviews where they express their dissatisfaction, they leak damaging information about her to the press where it will reverberate through the echo chamber that is our news media.

Then again, the whole "Diva" thing was leaked by people tied to Romney, so maybe it's his fingerprints on the dagger.

Either way, I'm sure they're all a lovely bunch of conservatives who believe that ambition and greed always brings about good things for all people, and that leaders who gain power based on the virtue of having the most untempered ambition or greed make the best distributors of resources.

That'll work out fine, you betcha.

you betcha! *wink

Wrong! The VP's job is to run the senate and really get in there and make laws and rawwwr rabble blah blah blah you betcha! *wink