And they wonder why these things keep wrecking. It's all twisty.

A sportbike can get away from a pickup, period, IF you're prepared to ride like a bat out of hell for an indefinite amount of time. But looking at that nice, fairly twisty road, those guys were out there to enjoy the corners, not to see how much time they could log at 160. Corners are where the fun (and the skill) is.

Besides, travelling together limits your options--if you want to ditch the truck, you need to get your friend past him too, and then both take off. You don't want to zoom off and just hope the truck didn't give up on you, and go kill your buddy instead.

This is genius for the ending.

Oh and the compassion shown toward the twisty ties.

No. You can prove they pissed in your water. That's ample. If someone is dumping pollutants into that water, you could also prove that and seek damages. Same with pollutants in the air. You always have to mitigate damages. Let's be reasonable, please.

Then why can't I say "all carbon emissions beyond a certain amount cause damage", and then set up a system of permits for emissions that are sold at auction (and tradeable thereafter), and then charge people who emit more carbon than they have permits for with theft (or vandalism or reckless endangerment, etc.)?

That's cap & trade in a nutshell.

Speculation. A cost-effective way to discredit environmental movements is to pick on Gore? And, is it just insidious right-wing political groups? Maybe draw a dastardly twisty mustache on these shadowy groups while you're at it. The founder of the weather channel is evil! Kill him with fire!

Dude, you're the one who brought up Al Gore's legal situation into a conversation about the environment. Clearly you thought that was germane somehow. I don't, but it's a totally standard political tactic to engage in ad hominem attacks like that.

It's such a well-worn tactic that it's become running gag on left-wing blogs to title any link to a news story about the effects of global warming "Al Gore is Fat."

Oh, and before I forget, here's another lawsuit I would expect a libertarian to endorse: the Pakistani people filing a class-action lawsuit against every major energy company for the damages caused by their recent flooding.

Another: Russia does a class-action lawsuit against every major energy company for the damages caused by their outbreak of wildfires.

A final thought, all the wildlife killed by the BP oil spill, who's got standing to sue for damages for them? For that matter, what's the settlement value for a Brown Pelican or a sea turtle? What if some species was made extinct by it?

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If we were talking about someone pissing in my water supply, would I really have to drink it, and then later prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it did some harm to me before I could expect law enforcement to get involved? Couldn't I just say "I don't consent to have pee put in my drinking water!" and get the police to stop people who wouldn't comply?

No. You can prove they pissed in your water. That's ample. If someone is dumping pollutants into that water, you could also prove that and seek damages. Same with pollutants in the air. You always have to mitigate damages. Let's be reasonable, please.

As for the "good reason" Al Gore is being sued for fraud, it's because there's a tremendous amount of right-wing political groups and corporations that want to discredit the entire environmental movement. A cost-effective way to do that is to try to tarnish the movement's most recognizable representative.

Speculation. A cost-effective way to discredit environmental movements is to pick on Gore? And, is it just insidious right-wing political groups? Maybe draw a dastardly twisty mustache on these shadowy groups while you're at it. The founder of the weather channel is evil! Kill him with fire!

You really should read more about what climate scientists who study this say.

I do, but only so far. I have other things that take my time, and reading every perspective of global warming isn't a top priority. It seems a lot of the 'the world is coming to an end' environmental prophecy is doom and gloom fear-mongering. It's a rabbit hole. A dark, scary rabbit hole.

So, are you going to donate to Campaign for Liberty? I am! Woohoo! They can come back to dip in my well anytime. Gay pun intended.

Hello! Just back this minute from seeing the film. I have a few comments to make which may involve SPOILERS.

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Hmmm.

The short review is - what a load of disappointing and quite frankly tedious crap.

Oh Nolan why are you getting worse with each film? Who honestly thinks LDC is an actor with enough charisma to hold a film like this? He really wasn't enough for this role. Why the fuck does Nolan insist on having that thuddingly monotonous soundtrack pounding over virtually every single scene of dialogue? Why not give the actors some space instead of making it feel rushed and forcing them into layering soundbites for only the sake of exposition? Why not make this about the performances rather than worship the god of pacing? (it certainly didn't feel like 148 minutes I'll give him that).

Sorry, that girl he hires? Where was that maze she designed? Oh fuck that, we want a shortcut now. And why is Leo's dad (Michael Caine again for some reason) offering up students to do dodgy work? And what was she studying? Extraction 101? What world is this that dreams can be hacked in this way? This is never explained. Should we expect to see the flying cars out the window? Has cancer been eradicated in this world? How many other people are doing this shit?

And Leo with a bad case of dead wife syndrome (DWS). You know if you want to keep pulling that trick you might want to make it better than it was in Memento. Which is hard to do. Mainly because Guy Pearce is a better actor who makes you feel something about his character. Sympathy, disgust, shock, whatever. Something. LDC is like balsa wood in comparison.

But maybe I'm being too hard on Leo. Maybe the problem is with the script. I was surprised to find I had no problems following what was supposed to be a twisty, layered plot. I didn't see multiple plots criss-crossing and tying my mind up in knots - you want that? Try a James Ellroy novel. I still find Memento a mind-bending watch. The dream within a dream scenario is as hard to imagine as a box within another box. And here that's all that Nolan is concerned about. He loves the techie aspects of this. How does box C behave in box B. Oh B is jiggling about so C is getting all shook up. And do we get to care much about the inception itself? Nope. I thought this was a big missed opportunity to play the complex mind-games required to crack the subject. But in between explosions there wasn't much time for that.

Nolan has become a slightly more sophisticated version of the recent fanboy directors. But he's still thoroughly crass and obvious and doesn't have the talent to explore the spaces between what initially seem like promising ideas. But dreams? Hell, I enjoyed the more straightforward japes of Dreamcape and that was a long time ago.

But I am surprised that so many love this - I'd ask that you think about the characters. State what was memorable about them and what made them interesting. What did this film actually say that was of substance? Strip away the artifice and what are you actually left with?

I saw Total Recall, again, a few days ago. It was better than this.

Neither, they're trying to suck whatever they can get out through a twisty straw, and telling us to be happy that the little bit of oil they manage to capture (to sell to us later) won't accidentally all over Florida.

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That twisty flip thing was impressive.

>> ^Abel_Prisc:
lol 'Paid for by God and Doctors'.
Alicia Silverstone is attractive, but she still does that weird twisted mouth thing when she talks that's always bugged me.


Dude, the twisty mouth thing is fucking hot. If only every girl did the twisty mouth thing!

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Rather than a second account, it would probably be better to use the API - though I'm not sure what methods are provided.

>> ^joedirt:
Dag, that's cool and the Page Density part would be good for finding hot videos.
Is it possible to setup a second Chartbeat acct and the javascript key for
http://www.videosift.com/
http://www.videosift.com/?pg=2
http://www.videosift.com/?pg=3
http://videosift.com/top
http:// .videosift.com/?pg=2
etc.
Those pages would be one Chartbeat key and all the other videos would be another key, so the page density map could be a visual list of hot videos.
I also wonder if the Expand video twistie that uses AJAX to open the video embed on the same page could also add some javascript for Chartbeat so even those videos / clicks would be tracked. (ie. on one page http://www.videosift.com/?pg=2 I could watch eight videos but it appears that I am idle the whole time, even though I am expanding videos)

Dag, that's cool and the Page Density part would be good for finding hot videos.

Is it possible to setup a second Chartbeat acct and the javascript key for
http://www.videosift.com/
http://www.videosift.com/?pg=2
http://www.videosift.com/?pg=3
http://videosift.com/top
http://*.videosift.com/?pg=2
etc.

Those pages would be one Chartbeat key and all the other videos would be another key, so the page density map could be a visual list of hot videos.

I also wonder if the Expand video twistie that uses AJAX to open the video embed on the same page could also add some javascript for Chartbeat so even those videos / clicks would be tracked. (ie. on one page http://www.videosift.com/?pg=2 I could watch eight videos but it appears that I am idle the whole time, even though I am expanding videos)

Ok, obviously charging for submissions or comments is bad idea. Some type of power point things might work (put up a paypal and have some cheap exchange rate).

You really should also look at all those awful facebook type games and other webpage games that you get bonuses by doing things like registering at some coupon page or those silly things, they must make referral money.

I really think the sift needs more ads mixed in as videos (at least for non-logged in users). I think you should have a donation link up there one week a month.

The problem is always getting past the dead zone of a $30/month level of traffic and when you have enough to make a profit. I don't think digg and other stuff will work, more traffic makes the problem worse. Is it more the dedicated server expenses or the traffic or is it 50/50?

I think you should turn of the filters and some features if it saves a lot on CPUs (not that down sizing is a good idea, but more efficient??) Or even a IP based bandwidth quota that probably would only effect a few people, and just a static page that says come back in 4 hours..

Every 10th video you click on the expand twistie and you get ajax ad frame instead with a SKIP>> thing. It's not that annoying and people can be charter if they care. I've always thought charter was too pricey.. I just don't know the sweet spot.

Anyways, I think the internet ad $$$ is going to get worse (but then again Amazon is the only ones making money). So I thinking it's like US dependence upon oil.


Do you think doubling the traffic will help? Doubling the ad clicks? Or just reducing costs and living off of donations and charter.

I think you should go look at the early fark model or g00ns forums and how they got over the 'hump'. (But that was in good economic times).

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the novelty of his style wears thin after a while.

Hell for him will be to play Colossal Cave for all eternity. "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike."

and Planescape: Torment = God