Oh lawd... I'm sorry to add another unrelated comment to this video, but this is pretentiousness taken to extremes! I think you mean beyond you. Defeat conceded, good argument @enoch.

On the matter of trolls - there really isn't a troll problem here. You tell me a website with the same number of members and traffic of here that is as civil and well presented as this. We don't even have a massive amount of bad language.. As Sir Meatius of Loafendale said in 1754, on the subject of light and optics, "Objects perceived in the rearward looking reflecting devices may appear to have their sizes increased proportional to their actual location." (Chiroptera Ex Infernus) What he was trying to say is if you've been bugged by someone unfairly recently, it's a big problem to you.

Also, although i saw a lot about siftquisitions, i never really understood them, or had them presented to me in the way of "Hey, come help us decide how the sift will be," kind of thing. So i always avoided it and I may even have been young and annoying 5 years ago, and avoided it to keep my cover. But i'd love to be involved in things like that now, i am part of the community but it's more because i like talking to people. Some of the people i know over the years have given me videos to sift so that i'd keep minimum necessary status, and i got my avatar given to me by someone who made me feel very welcome for my comment contributions. I think any chance for the community to help itself is a good thing, it might get noticed if it's presented that way. And as someone else said, we have changed a lot in 5 years, and i don't just mean the sexy UI. Tell me if there's a poll!

Not at all. I certainly did not say it doesn't count. I said it's different.
You said yourself you moved away from there. Minorities can't move away from being refused a loan, getting a better job, or abuses of power. They can't run away from TV hosts seemingly amazed that black people know how to use a fork. They have to deal with more than explicit manifestation of discrimination.
That does in no way diminishes what you had to live through.

To quote Louis CK:
"I'm not trying to say that if you're white you can't complain. I'm just saying that if you're black you get to complain more."

I also want to stress, in line with my previous remark on "labels", that the vocabulary we use to discuss these issues is often not good enough, or at least not precise enough. We want to use (or claim) the word 'racism' because it carries that emotional weight needed to make a statement, even though it obviously means different things to different people. Should we instead use qualifiers like "community discrimination", "systemic discrimination"? Probably. But it's not likely to happen. To me the important point is not how it's called, but that people who are not confronted with this reality understand what effects it has on those who have live it.

For anyone wondering "who the hell is this guy?", Kevin Rose is the founder of Digg, the site that more often than not looks like this.

What I'm trying to say is, Thank you Videosift for keeping the ads managable, and I'm seriously gonna go charter some day

Hello dean... what's it like being a... liar!? Pants constantly on fire??

>> ^campionidelmondo:
Call it want you want ... T-Shirt, T-Shirt idea, design whatever. The fact remains that you're advertising them and that some of them are not for sale. The title of the panel doesn't really matter, it's the line saying "Help support VideoSift - buy a shirt or design your own!" followed by the image of the tshirt/design/whatever.
I don't really care enough to get into a great discussions about semantics here. All I was trying to say is that you might want to show off (aka advertise) the designs that are actually good and that people can buy and have bought, not the bad ones that fell through and that are not for sale.
And stop calling me a liar.

Call it want you want ... T-Shirt, T-Shirt idea, design whatever. The fact remains that you're advertising them and that some of them are not for sale. The title of the panel doesn't really matter, it's the line saying "Help support VideoSift - buy a shirt or design your own!" followed by the image of the tshirt/design/whatever.

I don't really care enough to get into a great discussions about semantics here. All I was trying to say is that you might want to show off (aka advertise) the designs that are actually good and that people can buy and have bought, not the bad ones that fell through and that are not for sale.

And stop calling me a liar.

In reply to this comment by demon_ix:Pointless masturbation was your expression. I'm not against CGI in general, I'm just saying in this particular video, using CGI would make a completely unremarkable video, while using Lego blocks made a unique and awesome video.

Why? The effects of the video are cool enough regardless of being constructed of lego. If someone made this video with CG, with say like 200 hrs of hard work, you'd say it was worthless? WTF is wrong with you? Let see you make a video this cool with CG.

I can and have. I say that to me it doesn't matter if any records were broken in the production of the video, since that's not how I measure if the video is good or not. You keep hanging on to the tiny technicalities and thus miss the entire point of what I'm trying to say.

No, the whole point of what you're trying to say is that you "feel" it is important to make this with Lego. Well, guess what buddy, what you "feel" doesn't mean very much. You need to support it with reasoning. You'd make a terrible critic if all you can say is that you "feel" something is right.

For the last time. The car analogy was simply to illustrate how using a shortcut would invalidate the entire endeavor.

And for the last time, it was a shitty analogy. It doesn't work. I've repeatedly stated why your analogy doesn't work, and you've repeatedly failed to address my critism. If you're just going to conveniently ignore questions that you can't answer, what is the point of me talking to you? I might as well be talking to a stubborn 12 year old.

The sift may not care about regulation blocks, or other made up rules that you use to define athletics for yourself, but there are rules to this here siftage. While I don't consider myself a part of the Digg community, and thus don't care one bit what they vote up or down, I do consider myself myself to be a part of this community, and thus care about what gets sifted up or not.

Made up rules that I use to define athletics for myself? You mean the sport of sprinting as defined by the International Olympic Committee that the whole world recognizes? Hey, basketball must be some silly made up rules that I personal use to define athletics right?

And You must be deluded if you're comparing the sift to the IOC. This is worse than your Usain Bolt analogy. The sift is a tiny slice of the internet, and the members get to choose what videos get shown on the sift. It's a community forum where people gather to show and tell the cool things they found on the net. And just like any other public forum or gathering, there are rules, but that hardly makes it the same as the regulatory body of a sport. The authors of the videos themselves don't even have to know or care about the sift, and the sift in turn, have no power over them. You must be far deep in denial or really desperate if you're grasping at such tenous strings to mend your broken analogy.

In reply to this comment by mentality:
Haha no. The goal of an animation is primarily to produce the visual effect. Hence, why James Cameron will use CGI to animate all the passengers on the Titanic, and not actually hire thousands of extras to do it. With his $200 Million + budget, you know Cameron could have hired the extras if he wanted to. Would you call James Cameron a pointless masturbator? Lol of course not.

Pointless masturbation was your expression. I'm not against CGI in general, I'm just saying in this particular video, using CGI would make a completely unremarkable video, while using Lego blocks made a unique and awesome video.

The whole point of sports in the Olympics is to go faster, better, strong, using human power. The point of an animation is to produce the desired visual effect. Unless the animators specficially set out to break the record for longest stop motion lego video (they did not state that this was their goal), then you cannot possibly compare the two.

I can and have. I say that to me it doesn't matter if any records were broken in the production of the video, since that's not how I measure if the video is good or not. You keep hanging on to the tiny technicalities and thus miss the entire point of what I'm trying to say.

Again, you are avoiding my criticism, by ignoring my question: how would using a car produce the same effect of letting Bolt compete in events and continue his career?

For the last time. The car analogy was simply to illustrate how using a shortcut would invalidate the entire endeavor.

Haha no, the sift is a mob that votes for what it likes. You don't call Digg the regulatory body of the internet, do you? The sift does not care if the animators used non-regulation blocks, or if the animators had assistance while filming, or if they used CG to spice up the effects. Compare that to olympic sprinting, where 0.01 seconds off can be a false start, an extra 0.5 mph wind can invalidate your record, where stepping on a line by half an inch can ruin years of training. That just shows how inappropirate your analogy is.

The sift may not care about regulation blocks, or other made up rules that you use to define athletics for yourself, but there are rules to this here siftage. While I don't consider myself a part of the Digg community, and thus don't care one bit what they vote up or down, I do consider myself myself to be a part of this community, and thus care about what gets sifted up or not.

^ I'm trying to figure out what the point is that you're trying to make. Are you trying to say that because you're highly educated, and working in the field of science, you should automatically be guaranteed higher pay and benefits than a factory worker?

Is it just to say that the situation is unfair, and the unfairness is being caused by unions?

Now, let me say, I generally agree that the situation seems backwards. Our society should value the services of people doing pure research more, and by that I mean more funding for the research itself, as well as better pay/benefits for the workers.

But unions don't create that problem. In a capitalist economy, everything has to show a return on investment. Pure research usually doesn't produce results that can bring a monetary return that exceeds the money spent to produce the result.

Under the market paradigm, this means we should spend fewer resources on pure research, because they're something of a long shot investment -- you might discover something really useful, like a transistor, or you might just figure out that bisphenol A causes medical problems over long periods of exposure, which just means the government is going to make you spend a lot of money for no reason.

Organizations that unify people around the cause of improving the societal valuation of pure research don't hurt. It might even help improve pay & benefits for your type of work.

Don't call it a union though, because then they'd be subject to a lot of animosity for no apparent reason.

The crowd cheered and chanted at the most ridiculous moments, utterly undermining what he was trying to say.

"... which gives you the option of voting for somebody else ..."

*crowd cheers* (translation - YO GET FUCKED DUDE WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!)

Love how he exposes himself as an anti-semite at the end of the video...

The only appropriate response to this is "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

What an incredibly moronic, ignorant, passive-agressive shithead.

Not to mention how ignorant it is to say that all terms using "black" are racist. How about "black tie event?" or if you're in business, being "in the black" is a good thing.

Reminds me of high school, when this one black dude was being admonished by a teacher for acting like an idiot. She said "you guys are always acting up", meaning him and all his friends. The black dude tried to say that by "you guys" she meant only black people, and not specifically this guy and his asshole friends. He started raising a huge stink about it, yelling and screaming about racism, until about a dozen of us simultaneously told him to "shut the fuck up. "

Alrighty. A lot of you made some OUTSTANDING comments that pretty much made me want to kiss you, and not necessarily because you agreed with me, but because they were just so darn beautiful and well thought out and you understood what I was trying to say even if you didn't agree. I really want to reply to all of this, but it is finals week and I have already wasted WAY too much time on here this week. So I'm going to discipline myself and I'll tackle your comments, some of which are deliciously wiggity-wack, as soon as finals are over.

Last night I hated the world. Today I'm feeling pretty optimistic because of some of your comments. Thanks for that. I was getting pretty pissed. You reminded me of how intelligent and well-informed some of you are.

MINK:

You're debating a claim that nobody made about Mormon ideology being true because the people are nice? You only have to tolerate something if it doesn't decrease the amount of happiness in the world i.e. hurt anyone. Thus, I don't have to tolerate Hussein's ideologies because they hurt people. Mormons are pretty good people and the church does good things. So, you could be called intolerant not to tolerate them. That is the only reason I brought up the whole "nice" thing.

All organized religion is not "by definition" intolerant of others. And how is it insulting for Mormons to make claims about Christ? Does somebody own him? I don't demand that the attacks stop. My whole reason for defending the faith is:

1.) An egocentric perpetuation of the belief that the Mormon faith is so very ridiculous that Mormons must be brainwashed, stupid, ignorant, or crazy to believe it, as opposed to other religions that are "more believable", is an intolerant practice.
2.) This intolerant practice leads to discrimination, hatred, and cruelty.
3.) Such ill-informed and unsupported treatments of Mormon beliefs should end because they are intolerant and prejudiced and they have an adverse affect on the people.

That's all I'm trying to say. Honestly, if you can't undertand how the typical Mormon video on VS is intolerant, I don't know what I can say to help you understand it. I would and have done the same thing for Catholics a few times.

Your weird and extraneous argument about Joseph Smith's death baffle me. I'm glad someone else already set you straight so I don't have to.
And will someone please explain the source of the "magic hat" thing to me? I've never seen it anywhere but on South Park.

Wait, I really don't understand what you're trying to saying choggie. could you clear up that sentence?
BTW - Where in B-more was this?

[what? are you saying that the guy would have been less compelled to drive while intoxicated if he was an american?]

no, that's what you think the sentiment was-

[What if the tables were turned and it was an american drunk-driver killing an illegal immigrant? You could say the same exact same thing, but perhaps it wouldnt taste so good then."]

Then the american, as a person who is required by law in most countries, to have a passport to be in the country whose laws he broke, and would have to be a responsible American, in another country, whose border he did not transgress.....

The issue, IS, for Americans, her illegals, just as it is for other nations who have lost sight of the importance of enforcing laws, instead of making bullshit human rights excuses....

["I hope i misunderstood what you were trying to say because if you are the type of person that would rather close himself off from the world and live in your happy little bubble rather than accept something as simple as diplomacy then im not sure how you found TAYtv in the first place"]

-you did...

diplomacy....that word, in the context of the statement referenced, has no meaning.....what did you mean????

So, now that everyone has flexed their knee-jerk observations, what IS the real issue concerning illegal immigrants?? Oh and yes, it is a shame some drunk, regardless of his race,creed, or color, was let behind the wheel, in this wonderful, tolerant, bring-in-all-comers, especially yer teeming refuse without proper papers, country!!!

what? are you saying that the guy would have been less compelled to drive while intoxicated if he was an american?

both geraldo and oraley are some of the saddest dumbest fucks I have ever seen, but one of them seems to have more common sense than the other. You cant blame the guy for being an undocumented immigrant, but you can blame him for being an ignorant fuck, and ignorance is universal and extremely prominent in mr.oraley's country.
You can't blame something like this on the 'what if's, because they are countless. And I dont even want to think of a place that will deport a guy for getting a parking ticket.

I hope i misunderstood what you were trying to say because if you are the type of person that would rather close himself off from the world and live in your happy little bubble rather than accept something as simple as diplomacy then im not sure how you found TAYtv in the first place