I'm sorry.

The YT account holder is Shawn Kassian.>> ^Zifnab:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/chicchorea" title="member since October 15th, 2009" class="profilelink">chicchorea, why the ban? I'm guessing it's for a self link as this looks very suspicious, but I don't see any odvious evidence. The vid is pretty bad, but that's not the point...

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^jonny:
I'm pretty sure the cashier at the corner store is a lot more than her job.
That's actually the point Shawn was making, on grand scale. Everyone is more than they appear, and there's nothing inherently different between the people at the bottom of our class structure, and the top. It's more about costumes and the script we've written, than any sort of truly consequential difference.

Yeah, I got that. What I was saying is that he abandons the idea at sort of a crucial point. He's assuming that the cashier or cop or whatever is somehow unable to fully express their talents because the job they have doesn't require it. In the extreme case, look at Albert Einstein. While working an incredibly dull job in a patent office, he writes two of the most important scientific papers in history. I'm not saying this invalidates his entire thesis, just that he needs to look at a larger picture of life.

As a tangent, this also brings up the definition of poverty. The living conditions of many people we might consider the working poor today would be looked upon longingly by people only 100 years ago. Now, I'm not suggesting that means we can ignore the problem, just that we need to understand the context. Certainly there are many people today that are in conditions as bad or worse as the working poor of 100 years ago. My point with this tangent is that it's important to clearly define specific goals you want to achieve when talking about eradicating poverty. Some of those goals are obvious, like food and shelter adequate to maintain reasonable health. But then there are some goals, like access to information (via internet, libraries, whatever) that you may want to include and aren't obvious to some, or are understood but rejected due to a lack of understanding of why they're important.

To try to tie all this together, poverty isn't just about money, just like a person's life isn't defined just by their job, and a person's character isn't defined just by their upbringing.

>> ^jonny:

I'm pretty sure the cashier at the corner store is a lot more than her job.

That's actually the point Shawn was making, on grand scale. Everyone is more than they appear, and there's nothing inherently different between the people at the bottom of our class structure, and the top. It's more about costumes and the script we've written, than any sort of truly consequential difference.

>> ^NetRunner:

I'm with Wallace Shawn. Our world really is a stage.

That's weird - that's two somewhat obscure occurrences of Wallace Shawn I've seen in less than 24 hours (Inconceivable!). I saw part of "My Dinner With Andre" last night. Weird movie.

About his article, though, it's odd that he points out that actors, by definition, are not their job, but he doesn't seem to subscribe to the same idea for everyone else. I'm pretty sure the cashier at the corner store is a lot more than her job. She probably even expresses it while at her job.

I'm with Wallace Shawn. Our world really is a stage.

Shawn Elliott...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Shawn Phillips, Folk Rock' to 'Shawn Phillips, Folk Rock, audiosift' - edited by rasch187

Anyone know where you can find that version of the audio book? I checked out one audio book version and it was just unlistenable due to the reader. I could live with someone besides Sagan reading it, but this guy was unbelievably irritating. Just non-stop nasal whining, like Wallace Shawn without the charisma.

Holy shit, suck it Shawn White.

Fixed.>> ^shuac:
Apparently, the word 'speech' is some mystical, magical thing that causes people to spell it like it was a fruit. I've seen others get similarly mystified and this is the conclusion I shall draw.

>> ^ponceleon:
Inconceivable!


You keep using that word.I do not think it means what you think it means.

Thanks!
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*quality

This deserves a much more vast audience than I presume it will probably achieve.

Shawn to the Cult guy: "you know I see you right in front of me and I hear what you have to say, and it's nothing...and if I was an empty person that didn't have anything to believe in, I might go with you, because that would be easy...and I'm done with easy ...and I'm done with empty...and I'm done with you."



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Hey it's Shawn Elliot's favourite fetal alcohol syndrome poster child.

Will you, Shawn, take me, Kristy, to be your post-apocalyptic love slave until death do us part?

Note to the ladies: The love slave bit works on a guy every time. Just don't expect them to remember the rest of what you've said once those words are uttered.