In reply to this comment by choggie:
catchy hook......again, atheist fucktards, how much work for good can be done, by being the obnoxious schoolyard bully??? Yer all fucktards, preachy is the disease you all share.....atheist's most outspoken and memorable examples, I wouldn't be caught dead inna life raft 3 clicks form shore with.....oh and, Madeline Murray O'Hare???...she's in heaven

Read below Ignoramus!

Personally, if I don't like someone I don't engage them, at all. If someone engages a person who pisses them off, that is their responsibility. Dag doesn't need to put up with personal attacks, and I doubt he takes them seriously.
Speaking in kindergarten terms here, it is a whole other matter entirely when the schoolyard bully is in someone's face and demanding that they hit first, or else he/she will keep pestering everyone in the schoolyard beyond ignorable behavior. That's when the first available person who is capable should physically remove the bully. He jumps the fence during recess and keeps harrasing? Remove him again. When the school suspension (in metaphorical terms here, his two week ban) is over, no one in the real world would hesitate to kick him out again if he starts up again.
But then what if said bully then spends every day outside the fence watching and making comments to anyone who will listen? Were I a school counselor, I would have to ask myself "Does he have nothing better to do and just likes causing a raucus, or is he genuinely wanting back into school to continue his invested time & efforts?".
At such a point I would think that the question would really be whether any person with authority would be willing to take on the "project" of having him back, being as that person would ultimately be dealing with any messes created in the process.
I have made a point of letting "choggie" know that I like him, I believe he is an essentially good person...but that like it or not, every interaction in this world is political and people have a threshold of tolerance that is up to them. It is not a person's god-given right to be however they want to be and expect unconditional acceptance.
If he has crossed Dag or Lucky's threshold of tolerance, then that's that. Just because a couple of us in the schoolyard miss and like him doesn't give us the right to demand that the principal must willingly take on the burden.

(I wonder how many 'believers' are just playing the part to avoid being ostracized by their family/community?)

I agree with you Winstonfield, NBC can be as ridiculous and petty as FOX. It's like two schoolyard gangs making fun of each other. Who knew media could be so divisive...

If you want a congratulatory post of some sort, you have to make an impact on some other user, so that they will make it for you. Some do it by controversial videos, some do it by good comments, and I imagine there are other ways. The more you make an impression, the more likely it is.

Sure there are some cliques here, but I don't think we're completely circle-jerking cliques like they usually are in the schoolyards. There are some natural groupings, where like minded people tend to gather, but other than that, I don't think there are any firmer than that, apart from the occasional couple.

>> ^rychan:
A serious question -- Everyone is talking about Hamas and Israel. What is the correct response for the people in the school?
With many students surely someone noticed that men were sneaking around setting off mortars. If you decide to sit tight, you must realize you're being used as a human shield. Surely you would get the hell out of there? Or possibly even actively resist the people who are trying to instigate Israel to kill you?


Absolutely...

Shocking that parents would knowingly send their kids to a "school" where mortar is fired in the schoolyard. I guess it's a cultural thing to be proud that your child dies as a "martyr".

By the way... isn't the preposition Al-Jazeera chose so obviously ridiculous?

"War on Gaza"

Just showing some choggie love that he sent me today in email:

BY THE WAY, TO PREFACE THIS E-MAIL, YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED BY MYSELF TO SHARE THIS MESSAGE I AM MARKING PRIVATE HERE, OR ANY MESSAGE I MARK AS PRIVATE ON THE GODDAMN SIFT, WITH ANYONE!!!......Private means for your eyes only motherfucker, not cut paste and share with dumbasses like yourself!!! dO IT AGAIN ON vs AND SEE ME RIP YOU A THIRD ASSHOLE.......



Be advised ya thick lump, prior to my return to the sift. You have still not done what is righteous-Instead of trying to make amends with another human being (not simply a member of some video blog) ,you have defended your self feebly in the discarded post with the tombstone I made just for you........that discard came from schmawy's disgust, if yer able to glean from the post that, after yer "schoolyard-kid, defensive rant, where you attempt to make people feel good about you being a pathetic tattler, and a angry rage-filled one at that......
Yer a fool.....I have repeatedly made attempts to approach you, even called yer phone, and excuses, denial, rage and fear is all I am met with.....you are acting the bitch, you and yer pal blanky, WHO FEELS EMPOWERED BY YOU SHOWING YOUR ASS, BECAUSE HE TOO, IS AN ASS-SHOWER....the cat torturer and bad-likker drinker, yer both unheathy boys, and I wish for ya both to be healed.......

The message(s) I forward to you, I sent to my familiars, many of which have been here since the beginning, all of which are in my googlechat or gmail address book, and all of whom I trust to make righteous observations, and who also have a manner less abrupt, and much more polite and forgiving than my own....I call people like these "alllies"....whadday know, some are admins, and some are princes and priestesses.....I WISH NEITHER OF of yer dumb-asses any ill, I simply wish for you to to have NO opinionn whatsoever, as it relates to me, anywhere on the sift.....yer both assholes, of an order that if allowed to continue, will turn ya into loners and lumps of shit some day........salvageable???/...Always. But one first must be willing to admit, that they have a problem.. I KNOW WHAT MINE ARE AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE! So keep yer pathetic observations to yerself, and know that everthing you know is wrong.....if you start from there, you might just learn a few things about yerself.


Now......
READ IT AND WEEP, LAUGH, SHIT OR GET THE FUCK OFF MY POT!!

yeah gwiz665!! Shut yer fucking cakehole, ya Obamagirl motherfucker.....( the preceding, adhom silioqy brought to you by choggie, inc..... "What's in your fucking agenda??"

We really love when folks simply right off ideas they can't wrap their heads around, by pointing out the obvious flaws in their pundits, without any counter argument of substance or style...... Schoolyard tactics, employed by imbeciles, everywhere....

BTW, the folks who made this produced piece of tripe, are insane.

>> ^quantumushroom:
The truth doesn't need junk science, political correctness and price controls, plus an in-cahoots media to cover up the resulting failures. Liberals need all four.

In psychology, they call this projection. On the schoolyard, this is the "I am rubber, and you are glue" defense.

You really don't realize that all four of those are hallmarks of the right-wing, do you?

Two have different names on your side of the fence: Political Correctness becomes "Gay marriage ban, abortion ban", Price Controls become Big Business Subsidies. Difference is, we don't actually legislate Political Correctness, nor Price Controls (unless this is your way of talking about Minimum Wage).

so fucking obviously true.

"there isn't any way to puninsh a large amount of deviants, it's too expensive... colonise the minds of children so that they become police, and they will report other children who are deviating..."

this is THE conspiracy theory, the fucking Mother of All Conspiracy Theories, and it works because it doesn't even need conscious conspirators.... you are gone before you are 6 years old, and then if you still persist in "deviating" you'll find life is pretty much the same as the schoolyard... people will shun you in the workplace, because they are afraid of punishment or exclusion from employment.

secretly they envy your unashamed freedom and call you names on forums while trying to incite the herd to put on a happy happy joy joy face and exclude YOU before you make them look stupid.

i duuno man, she sounds like she's happy to able to showcase her practice of the most difficult language in the world....bet you sounded pretty silly trying to learn it as well.....life on earth is a giant mirror-

what gets good at around 0:45 for you, is schoolyard teasing from an immature mind to me......maybe you need an heroic dose of lorazepam, and a bloody nose-

wonderful, another passive-agressive, what the world needs now is love, sweet love....

"No, someone who is opposed to a warlike, dictatorial US/UN, unless I've misread what you're worried about."

NO, DAFT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!...or are we not aware of the paradigm the world has been in for the last 6000 fucking years!? Whine, wail, bemoan, sit on your fucking ass and repeat, repeat, repeat the ills of the nature of the planet, and think you are making a difference in the idyllic realm of possibilities under some recent regime, (if you feel comfortable calling it that) change.....idiots.

Now you will notice, fair sifters, how the "last word", schoolyard posturing, defective sensibilities, and damaged childhood of the previous sifter's retort here, is a carbon fucking copy of most of the dickl-ess, yet extremely vocal elements here on the blog........the key elements are:
Externalizing the fouled programming and sincere desire to let the rest of the world know that there is some sense and sensibility associated with the anger and frustration of the rambler, by projecting the world's ill's, on the chosen scapegoat(bush, republicans,horse-hair and yer granny's underwear, etc)....
oh how thoughtful, save the goddamn whales, and get a non-polluting car...
AS IF THAT"S TE GODDAMN ANSWER!!!

next, any argument, esp. from another scapegoat, whose take on their bullshit is approaching if not dead on the target, is met with 3 things:

Smug retorts, because ad-hom is not allowed
2regurgitated datum, ad fucking nauseum, to support their childish whining..
and
3-run and fucking hide from the bitter pill of truth, by pushing the "ignore" button, on their defective brain....

How about, not this monkey, and go fuck yourself, being my consistent, and wholly correct response, to such a goddamn imbecile...
Welcome to Videosift.....

Antimatter...Salvia is to McKenna, as Shoes are to elephants-

The hype, the jag, and the 20-something pundits of the experience, are not worth the excursion-Thanks to most folks being dumb-asses, and their descriptions of the trip, here's one I'm not the lease bit curious about-

"Hey Salvia fans!!??? Try these other great, dime-store schoolyard menaces....Dried Banana Peels,(smoked), Morning Glory seeds from Burpee seed packs stolen from the Wal-Mart, oh I know....3 heaping tablespoons of Nutmeg washed down with rubbing alcohol!!! fucking salvia....

no takers??
firetruck
nobody gets the prize..
Mr. Hoard, I keep fergettin' it's yer livelihood-and I know you know how much hatred their is for haters. You still don't get it do ya?? Have I not gone out of my way to explain myself with regard to my contempt for your vibe at times?? Your perception perhaps, is what's askew, again: while a Marijuana user myself, I blame the marijuana in your case. Labels, labels, and more labels-ad-hom, neo-con, I really don't know which labels place me in a tidy box, to be filed in the "Oh he's one or more of those" categories....why???
Because you never give up the sacred cow....Unlike most folks, I don't necessarily care what you think or say as much as I want to know why you say or don't say, think or don't think. Sorry to bust your version of relaxation-perhaps you are witnessing another, and yes, their have been a few, who have left this place out of sheer frustration. (not unlike what dag's head felt like 8 or so hours ago, after all that cheap Aussie wine, or what mine felt like reading the same thread, w/o wine)

I too relax here, but experiential awareness being a dynamic thing, I also get wound up, frustrated, just as much or more than yourself, as do we all-I can't be asked to abruptly halt something for want of understanding-If I should ever become siftquisitionated, new rules will have to be added to the already, long-winded tomes.

If my legacy here is to be eternal asshole, mine for you would be, Eternal Panderer....a title which I came up with on the fly, and had to check a dictionary to make sure it fit...funny, the definition I was thinking of alludes to the schoolyard homophone you were called on the blog, by some qm-type.....

relax.
I am not your enemy, and don't hate your input, and like so many of the directions your dredging of the internet takes me-you have given me many hours of satisfaction here, as well as many moments of other-(damn,I'm gettin' some blood-fill in the ol' Vienna sausage)

You think too much in one direction, me in another-welcome to the world of the real. You need people to be who they will, to remember who you are.God help the Canadians, and these pussyfied Americans, both of whom would babble themselves into box of scorpions, and then talk about the long-term effects of the pain, the poison,all the while standing in the box. My frustration must be in my head as well......told ya we juxtaposed well-

I have called Hillary a cunt here, clitless, etc., and all I get is ignored-at the very least, you will never suffer that- I try to call it like it may be, not like it is-

Go back and read the siftquisition you always refer to, the answer is there, i've told you more than once.....simply checks and balances

No one ever talks about the Darwin, Wedgewood, and Galton inbreeding project-OR
the Thomas Malthus and Herbert Spencer connection to social eugenics, that some of the more delusional and power-hungry members of the planet's population have embraced to justify their world views and agendas....

Don't you all just love how giddy atheists become, not unlike the more zealous practitioners of other, fundamentalist faiths??

Show me the members of atheist groups like this anywhere, and I'll show you some fundamentally, miserable motherfuckers...
The comments on this thread reek of the same emotional arrogance which any fundie exhibits. Wrapping your head around tomes of data is not unlike doing the same with chapter and verse, didactically picking it apart, and referencing it ad-nauseum, for the sake of schoolyard one-upmanship or one's own justification for confusion and doubt.

(I thought we'd grabbed all atheists by the hair and dangled them over a precipice already..)

In a way that's one reason religion developed, to answer unanswerable questions. It flourished by accruing mass amounts of money and control through means of taxing the people (through guilt). It gained more power as it was backed by leaders as a source population/social control. Now it is passed along like a bad schoolyard joke from parent to child and is taught as truth. It's a folk tradition nightmare.