Linkin Park trying vainly to stay relevant by buying into the pitchfork/indie clique with an electropop album.

Proceed to anyone doped up on mainstream pop/rock/hip-hop to call it revolutionary because its full of simple, repetitive and blusterously emotional choruses that they can follow from the first time they hear it on the radio.

there is NOTHING nine inch nails about this
beyond them ripping off the camera look for Closer
this isn't dark music
its pop rock dressed up to look "edgy"

these guys could tour with Nickelback
not NIN

>> ^Arkaium:

From the look of the dad, that's not the last bit of candy that child will be exposed to.


My thought as well... The baby will probably be fat before it turns two.

>> ^entr0py:

We're just lucky it turned out the way it did. No one understand the chemistry of babies. Thing could have started foaming like a science fair volcano.


Yeah, it is unfortunate.

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>> ^kronosposeidon:

Even though this made me happy, I also want to concern troll this thread by saying that they're giving their baby a choking hazard (even though it would dissolve before the baby could choke). So would that cost me a power point?


I sure hope it will.

This was never punk. It's pop rock like blink 182, sum41 and all that college blah blah with political overtones (which are hip now) to draw the crowd. Meh.

>> ^acidSpine:
I'm probably gonna get some downvotes for this but what the hell. Is punk music the only genre breaking new ground anymore? I mean I listen to all kinds of music and it's the same stuff being recycled over and over. Punk on the other hand, just when I think it can't be degraded any further...

um, it's extremely nerdy and requires at least a minor understanding of recording techniques.

let's see.

dynamics is the difference between the quietest sounds and the loudest by amplitude. recordings with a lot of dynamics generally sound more natural and detailed because it leaves the transients more or less intact.

compression in audio is the reduction of those dynamics which generally has the effect of making the recording sound louder by RMS amplitude or the recording which is at the cost of the transient details.

the "loudness war" is basically the conflict between sound engineers that try to make a recording sound good and producers and labels demanding that the recording sounds loud so that it stands out from other recordings. this is done by compressing the recording and limiting it's dynamic range. to give you an idea of how much recordings are compressed vinyl records have a dynamics range of about 50dB (i believe) and CDs have a dynamics range of 90dB. pop recordings and especially pop rock recordings have a dynamic range of 3dB. jazz and classical records will generally use most of the available dynamic range and will be compressed very little if at all.

the ideal for most music is a well compressed recording that still retains the transient detail. something that is very difficult to do well.

the loudness war started approximately in the early 90s (i believe) and mainstream recordings have gotten more and more compressed to try and stand out from their contemporaries by sounding louder. what you're actually hearing in this video is the difference between a CD recording (with a dynamic range of 90dB, and probably using about 2-4dB) and a DVD quality recording (with a dynamic range of 144dB and probably using about 6-12dB).

i'm a little rusty, but i think that's fairly accurate. if you're interested in further reading i just found out that wiki has a good page on the loudness war. and interestingly enough the album this song is from is listed as an album that has been criticized for sounding like crap for the sake of sounding loud which basically makes this example completely useless and confusing for anyone who's not already familiar with the loudness war. to really understand the differences you need to listen to something that was recorded before the loudness war and a remastered version after.

here's a decent example of what the difference is. you can see how much info is missing by the graphical representation of the sound too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v6ML2DsBfA

Call it syncronicity, who do you work for??-I pulled triumph outta my ass on a search today, listened to this song for the 1st time in 30 years, how the fuck could you have known? I guess the NSA gets better and better every year-It's not obscure, pop/rock from the eighties, band from Canada, o;ny thing makes them obscure is that it's good rock from Cananda thay made it on the charts in the US, and that farhads' prolly never heard of em.....
In reply to this comment by enoch:
should i put an obscure tag on this band?
i saw them three times and they fuckin ROCK!
pop it's cherry please kind sir.
http://www.videosift.com/video/TRIUMPH-lay-it-on-the-line-legendary-hard-rock-band-LIVE

*blues

(southern soul, psychedelic, bluesy pop rock)

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I know of a few good indie bands out here, but most of them are a bit more to the south (LA and stuff). I'll ask some friends to see what they recommend, I suppose. We'll see how things turn out, lol. I'm always on the lookout for good music though, so I'm sure I'll find something.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
WELL MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A MEAN MUSIC NAZI!!! hahaha jk. Well, I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully you'll find something you like out there. If not, you might have to do as the Romans. Step one is finding a venue. Which might be a painstaking process, especially if you're picky about music.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

WELL MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A MEAN MUSIC NAZI!!! hahaha jk. Well, I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully you'll find something you like out there. If not, you might have to do as the Romans. Step one is finding a venue. Which might be a painstaking process, especially if you're picky about music.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?