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The Simpsons - Mr Burns Explains The Fiscal Cliff

quantumushroom says...

"Raising taxes only on the top 2 percent of income earners will do nothing to reduce the deficit. There's not enough money there -- even assuming, contrary to all known history, that the top 2 percent won't find ways to reduce their taxable income or that the imaginary increased government revenue would be applied to deficit reduction, anyway."


It was a cute bit at election time; now I guess we have to hear these political ads 'twixt every episode.

Simpsons writers and King Obama have lots in common: they both do a terrible job, are overpaid and have an army of apologists and deniers when they deserve to have been fired long ago.

Actual Politcal Ad

wax66 says...

This is exactly the type of political ad I like. They actually provided me with enough factual information that I can vote with a feeling of understanding the candidates.

GO MATT VARILEK!

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America: Land of Socialism - Thomas Peterffy

quantumushroom says...

Besides being a "job creator" and pitching this inflammatory Ad that is fully in support of the Republican platform by way of fear inducement... It is scary to see the final repercussions from Citizen's United and see that a private billionaire like Mr. Peterffy can just put up a random add, FULL of distortion and outright lies

So what exactly is he lying about? Hungary's poverty? That socialism destroys incentive?

I decided that it was worth our time to have this ad here, due to its historical ramifications and to really underline the lengths people in power or with wealth will go to, to get their way. It also deserves to get the backlash it needs to have thrown at it due to its utter ridiculous nature. This ad plays off of your emotional appeal, to your natural instinct to care.

Yeah, that's what political ads do, appeal to emotions. What do you think Dopey Change was running on? Facts? Logic?

But, the real truth is that some of it is probably created in a Hollywood studio, BUT if he IS showing true strife in Hungary he most likely has the markings of a person with almost NO empathy. Last, as must ALWAYS be pointed out, to basically call out these idiots, we are not ANYWHERE close to a SOCIALIST government! GET OVER IT! Your talking point sucks and it's nearly 20 years old now.

We're very close to a socialist government. The bastards have their tentacles in every process, business and action, unwelcome or not. New taxes continue to appear, money we don't have continues to burn. The Supreme Court has incorrectly ruled that individuals can be forced to buy a product, something that would have been scoffed at even 20 years ago. Responsibility has been supplanted by government warnings and programs. You can't even cut down a tree on your own land without approval from some dick in an office thousands of miles away. But we're not screwed like Europe...yet.

It's funny in the end that he is so remarkably scared of paying MORE taxes, yet he spends HUGE amounts of money to try and stop it with ads... It's all so ironic somehow. I just knew this guy was an 1% personality, when he endorses the ad at the end with his own name. Do everyone a favor if you have a Google account setup and go to the video, login, and vote it down.

I'm confident Mr. Peterrfy isn't afraid of paying more taxes, but he sees SOMETHING the American left does not.

What could it be?

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

PostalBlowfish (Member Profile)

PostalBlowfish says...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Your post here has been answered.
Bring some facts to the table to support your argument.
P.S. American liberals want the same socialist model for government that Europe has now.
How they doin' these days?


If you're in the habit of ignoring facts (as you are showing with this response) there is no need to waste time digging up more and more detailed versions of a truth you refuse to see. The real failures are the congressional Republicans, and they failed on purpose. It's on the record. You want to ignore the truth, then don't bother with a response because I won't bother with another one.

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

quantumushroom says...

If we need the government to help improve conditions, then it makes no sense to point the finger at the guy who signs legislation and assign him the blame for the fact that the Congress can't be bothered to pass anything for him to sign. It's that simple. If you think it makes sense, you have partisan blinders on you.

>>> Obes' own party rejected his budgets, so I guess they're the obstructionists. Also, the libs have--and have had--majorities to pass any legislation they damn well please. So why wait? Raise taxes and cease "tax cuts for the rich" right now! Let's see some truth in advertising.

>>> Since you profess to enjoy facts, here's the full list of Obamacare tax hikes coming. This IS the same guy who wants to "help" the middle class, right? By making their tax burden heavier? That's sure to boost the economy.

But it's clear from the tone of your post that you're not interested in the truth or actual facts. Maybe if you just call him socialist and fascist and tyrannical a few more times it will magically become true and you won't look so spectacularly misinformed.

Bring some facts to the table about any aspect of this failed president and we'll begin.




>> ^PostalBlowfish:

You got that right.
>> ^quantumushroom:
Too many lies and distortions on this page


Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

volumptuous says...

Bobknight is either a liar or ignorant. I've seen him posting about politics here for quite a while and I have yet to read anything that's anywhere near reality.>> ^bobknight33:

Why did he not do this the first 4 years? He had full control of the house and senate.

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

rychan says...

>> ^bobknight33:

Ok you got me. Obama has been office for 3 years 6 months. Your too smart for me.
The Democrats still have full control of the senate and lost control of the House.


No. The Democrats had "full control" (filibuster proof majority) for perhaps 5 months, but even that is debatable because it depends on support from independents.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

PostalBlowfish says...

You got that right. So many, I had to cut most of your post.

If we need the government to help improve conditions, then it makes no sense to point the finger at the guy who signs legislation and assign him the blame for the fact that the Congress can't be bothered to pass anything for him to sign. It's that simple. If you think it makes sense, you have partisan blinders on you.

But it's clear from the tone of your post that you're not interested in the truth or actual facts. Maybe if you just call him socialist and fascist and tyrannical a few more times it will magically become true and you won't look so spectacularly misinformed.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Too many lies and distortions on this page

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

CreamK says...

>> ^criticalthud:

2. mostly unrealistic. america is #1 energy hog and neither technology advancements nor more drilling here will solve that or feed that gluttonous thirst. we are dependent on foreign energy, which is partly why we have 450 military bases around the world. We need to reduce need, and to do that, we need to re-examine our role in the world as pure consumers.


Well said. There are number of things that would reduce the power consumption right away. Refine the stupid pollution control that favors higher consumption in vehicles (lower consumption = more pollution per gallon when it should be mileage vs pollution.. now you can make a car that goes 10MPG but "pollutes" less), invest in public transport, invest in renewal sources.. You got huge amounts of land empty that could be used for solar farming, long coastlines to harvest wave energy, enough thermal activity to take energy from there (allthou thinking that USA is drilling to the core frightens me, you people have never been could at moderation...).

It seems to be that the thinking goes: This (particular) renewable source is not enough so we don't do it at all. But step by step, it would start to play a major part in the big picture. And there's endless supplies of solar energy, 250 W/m2 in average taking cloud cover and sun angle in to account.

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

Best political ad ever-but then the opponent is weak

Drachen_Jager says...

Sad, isn't it? You feel not only informed enough to vote, but informed enough to push your opinions on others, and yet you're less informed about American politics than foreigners.

Either that or you were intentionally lying to mislead people, which I suppose these days just makes you a Republican.

>> ^bobknight33:

Ok you got me. Obama has been office for 3 years 6 months. Your too smart for me.
The Democrats still have full control of the senate and lost control of the House.
Quick sucking Obama juice. Its going to you head.
>> ^Drachen_Jager:
>> ^bobknight33:
Why did he not do this the first 4 years? He had full control of the house and senate.

Your math is pretty far off the mark. Maybe you'd have benefited from those extra math and science teachers?
Democrats had control for the first two years of his term, but he does not control all Democrats, they can choose their own vote, and they often fought him on issues. After the first two years Republicans controlled house and senate and chose to spend every ounce of their political muscle fighting every one of his initiatives instead of trying to forge some kind of middle ground.




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