>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
He hates cops and the government, is concerned with 'federalists', thinks law enforcement is unconstitutional and worries about a currency system which is not tied to gold or silver. There is nothing wrong with these beliefs, but it's all tea party talk.


Or libertarian, though "hate" is a strong word for regard to cops and government, and I'm not so worried about whether cops are constitutional or not.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

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I see the buzzards have already started repeating talking points from KOS & HuffPO without even waiting for the body to get cold before trying to wrest a tragedy so it fits into the political fetters forged by years of personal bias. There's little evidence of anything so far except a lone gunman and a sad, tragic attack where 6 human beings died.
Quite honestly, to try and make this about Palin or anybody else shows a similar sort of hate-driven mental outlook to what was motivated the waste of skin pulling the trigger. Those of you guilty of such hate-driven bias really need to take a good long hard look in the mirror. When the first thing that you think of is not, "What an awful human tragedy" but instead "How can I squish this event into my political worldview?" then you have truly lost an important part of yourself. Those of this ilk need to take some time off from hating the 'other guy' and try to piece back together whatever scraps of humanity are left in you.


Fuck You.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

After reading some of Loughner's writings, it's clear that the guy is extremely nuts and probably schizophrenic, but it does contain right wing sentiment and he is connected with a far right white supremacist group called the American Renaissance. He hates cops and the government, is concerned with 'federalists', thinks law enforcement is unconstitutional and worries about a currency system which is not tied to gold or silver.
IMO, the shootings had much more to do with crazy than politics, but I can't help but think the influence influence of violent rhetoric on the mind of this crazy person did not help.
Analyze it for yourselves if you like. Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10
He's posted some truly off the wall stuff on 'abovetopsecret.com' under the name erad3
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread591108/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread592730/pg1


Yes I think that's the point. Those who are not held responsible for what they are saying and instead the media may analyze their comments continuously making them reach greater and greater audiences. Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin aren't people out for the destruction of the United States...they're just fake people who shouldn't have ever been put on TV in the first place.

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>> ^campionidelmondo:

Palin's crosshair and gun rhetoric is completely tasteless, regardless of what happened. However it's not the reason why this happened. You'd have more luck looking at the guy's upbringing and psyche. Crazy people have always existed, and will always exist. There's no grand reason, political or other, behind this tragic event.


I agree with this. However I would point out what most sane people are saying, Palin isn't smart and shouldn't be listened to. She is a truly pointless human being, that should be ignored.

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Sarah Palin and the Tea Party have used excessively violent rhetoric and symbolism at their rallies. The detail receiving the most attention is Sarah Palin's map graphic of Democratic 'targets' with sniper rifle crosshairs trained on each targeted opponent - Gifford being one of the targets. There have been warnings over the last couple of years that the influence of this kind of violent rhetoric on impressionable and unstable minds could lead to tragedy.

Here is the graphic: http://i.imgur.com/gs0t7.jpg

Here is an article with more details on this subject: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/gabrielle-giffords-shooting_b_806232.html>>

^blankfist:

Why is everyone blaming Palin? What did she do?
Just curious. I didn't hear anything about Palin in the report, but some of the comments here seemed to allude to her involvement.

She was one of the people in Sarah Palin's Hit List-ish website takebackthe20.com (which is currently offline). Joedirt posted a link to an image from it... which was this one. >> ^blankfist:

Why is everyone blaming Palin? What did she do?
Just curious. I didn't hear anything about Palin in the report, but some of the comments here seemed to allude to her involvement.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
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I see the buzzards have already started repeating talking points from KOS & HuffPO without even waiting for the body to get cold before trying to wrest a tragedy so it fits into the political fetters forged by years of personal bias. There's little evidence of anything so far except a lone gunman and a sad, tragic attack where 6 human beings died.
Quite honestly, to try and make this about Palin or anybody else shows a similar sort of hate-driven mental outlook to what was motivated the waste of skin pulling the trigger. Those of you guilty of such hate-driven bias really need to take a good long hard look in the mirror. When the first thing that you think of is not, "What an awful human tragedy" but instead "How can I squish this event into my political worldview?" then you have truly lost an important part of yourself. Those of this ilk need to take some time off from hating the 'other guy' and try to piece back together whatever scraps of humanity are left in you.


I don't blame Palin, she is a self-serving money whore. I blame the rhetoric. I hear tyranny over taxes. Well, a tyranny rapes its people, mutilates opposers, burns chuches... Yet, the talk is that America is headed there. What else are sheeple to do but pull out guns? And reload?

I blame wealth and the hate it causes.

It is interesting that she is the only person in Star Wars who can actually hit anything further than point-blank with a blaster.

>> ^Sniper007:

He's assuming limited global population is the desired outcome. It just so happens that limiting your population growth is what will take the blue box to below the 'sandal people'. The tremendous economic growth has risen and fallen in the US following exactly in line with the demographic phenomenon called the baby boom. Now that the baby boomers are leaving the work force, the entire US financial house of cards is falling.
This guy has NO CLUE what he's talking about. Wealth is CREATED by humanity. If you limit humanity's growth, you limit wealth's growth.
If he's worried about 'climate change', then he should realize that it's not the number of people, but their behavior which (potentially) affects that. In FACT, there are humans which by living their lives (ironically, in a lifestyle manner not unlike the 'sandal people') have a POSITIVE effect on their local climates, and thus the global climate (sic).


Wealth is not created by humanity's growth. Much of the financial "wealth" of the last century was created by banks and bankers. Money is a very misunderstood concept. http://videosift.com/video/What-is-money

In relation to population growth and the environment Rosling's concern is that the trend of rising economies is that they tend to adopt the behavior of the economic state they rise towards, i.e. trading in bicycles for volvos. He states point blank that technologies should be developed so that these people can choose to use electric volvos rather than diesel ones, and thus curb behavior to have a reduced environmental impact.

List from here:

0’00 - Roxanne, Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Gleaming the Cube, The Princess Bride, A Fish Called Wanda, Star Wars, The Wizard of Oz, Casino, Three Amigos, A Clockwork Orange

1’05 - Dolemite, Glengarry Glen Ross, Bad Santa, The Witches of Eastwick, The Big Lebowski, In Bruges, Full Metal Jacket, There Will Be Blood

2’05 - Toy Story, Casablanca, Encino Man, The Women, Predator, Army of Darkness, They Live, Uncle Buck, Big Trouble in Little China, New Jack City, Billy Madison

3’00 - Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, The Departed, Carlito’s Way, In the Loop, Glengarry Glen Ross, Stand By Me, Grosse Pointe Blank, Duck Soup, Caddyshack, Planes Trains & Automobiles

4’00 - South Park, Napoleon Dynamite, Mean Girls, The Breakfast Club, As Good as It Gets, The 6th Day, Step Brothers, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Full Metal Jacket, City Slickers, Road House, True Grit, Shot Circuit

5’00 - Raging Bull, The Usual Suspects, Snatch, Caddyshack, The Last Boy Scout, Ghostbusters, The Sandlot, As Good as It Gets

6’00 - 48 Hrs, In Bruges, Silver Streak, Glengarry Glen Ross, A Fish Called Wanda, Goodfellas, National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation, The Mist, Trading Places

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8’00 - Anchorman, Tropic Thunder, Sexy Beast, In the Loop, Get Shorty, Blazing Saddles, The Way of the Gun, Blade: Trinity, Clerks, The Boondock Saints, The Exorcist, What About Bob?, Weird Science

9’00 - Con Air, True Romance, In the Loop, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Lake Placid, The Front, Gone with the Wind

>> ^poolcleaner:

What's debunked?


The idea that the gunshot knocks you down with its own force alone.

The man in the Second Chance t-shirt is Richard Davis, the creator of the bullet-proof vest. He has shot himself point blank in the chest something like 200+ times. I'm from the small Michigan town (Central Lake) where he based his company, Second Chance Body Armor, which was sold several years ago. When we were in grade school during Halloween he would lead our costume parade through the town wearing a full Darth Vader outfit and riding on a horse. He used to drive a camouflage Mercedes. Eccentric, but cool guy.

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