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Fairbs says...

And another note, a tribal burial site was bulldozed before people could get there to determine if it had historical value which would have stopped the pipe line.

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

bremnet says...

Yep, that puzzled me too. Note that the pipes are covered with ice and snow, and the tie downs are cutting grooves (circumferential) into the pipe you reference but not the lower one on the right hand side, so something "soft" there - I ascribed the marks to perhaps lifting or handling cut into the snow and ice that seems to be stuck fairly well on that joint. Perhaps different cladding, though looking end on before things start to move shows fairly clearly that there is some form of coating on the pipes (why can't everybody just use the same 323 Scotchkote color and keep things simple). If you have a look after the first big shift at 1:05, you can find a clear frame where the end on view of the same pipe doesn't appear to have any layer beyond the assumed coating (ie. no 2x4's) and much of the snow / ice has been shaken off (another clear frame around 1:09). Normally if they're stacking coated pipe, even a full joint, two or three bands of heavy polypropylene rope (1" - 2" diam) with the ends hot melted together to make a single hoop keeps the pipes from scuffing one another in transport. But then again, there's nothing normal about how this load was built, so anything's possible I guess. Cheers.

Payback said:

Pause it right at the beginning. The second layer of pipe, first pipe, under the snow, seems to have lengths of 2x4 wrapping it like a barrel. Now I think about it, they probably wrap each other layer for protection of the layer above and below, which would suggest coated pipe.

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

Payback says...

Pause it right at the beginning. The second layer of pipe, first pipe, under the snow, seems to have lengths of 2x4 wrapping it like a barrel. Now I think about it, they probably wrap each other layer for protection of the layer above and below, which would suggest coated pipe.

bremnet said:

They aren't wrapped in wood, but if this is uncoated pipe, some will lightly tack weld a ridge or piece of scrap barstock to the OD of the pipe to keep it from rolling when building the stack

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

poolcleaner says...

Questions about your question: What is the cost per pipe? What would the cost of labor be to recover? Would they be easy to locate?

artician said:

Are there any attempts at recovering what falls off, or are they just considered a loss and left in the ocean?

Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

bremnet says...

They aren't wrapped in wood, but if this is uncoated pipe, some will lightly tack weld a ridge or piece of scrap barstock to the OD of the pipe to keep it from rolling when building the stack; they aren't there to prevent this type of major rolling action. At around 1:33 you can see one of these going over the edge. Just guessing, but these look to be in the 20" to 30" diameter range with plenty of length, so they're just really small ships with the ends cut off and will float for a bit until well flooded - lots of surface area there for some buoyancy, and I've seen 40 foot joints of 20" diameter casing float near the surface for 30 seconds or so when a bubble gets trapped temporarily inside before burping out and sinking to the bottom. At around 2:15 you can see the big reddish block with the vertical groove right on the corner of the load platform about 1/4 of the way up the frame. That's where normal humans stab the stake or pipe to help contain the load (so, the vertical pipe or solid stake goes in the hole, the load is built, and no rolling can occur - momentum is the killer here, so if you keep things from rolling, life is good. This was an excellent example of how not to load pipe on a barge / ship.

Payback said:

I was wondering why some of them seemed to float, but it looks like they were wrapped in wood planks.

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Russian Cargo Ship Loses Cargo of Big Ass Pipes

Semi Plows Through Flood Like A Boss

Mika Brzezinski Calls on Debbie Wasserman Schultz to Resign

newtboy says...

But V.P. for whom? At this point, Clinton has said more disparaging, disrespectful, dismissive things about him than Trump has. In fact, Trump has actually said a few nice things about Bernie (and called him Crazy Bernie). That said...a Trump Sanders ticket might just kill a Trump candidacy, so I could support that...it won't happen though.

What I really hope for at this point is that he'll run as an independent after he gets hosed at the convention, and with Warren as his V.P. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels to me that she has such credibility with all but staunch Republicans that they might have a chance of winning....and then we would have at least one branch of government not under either party's thumb. I get that it's a pipe dream, but a newt can dream, can't he? It does seem like both parties are doing their best to push the nation into electing a third party into power....or better, no party.

dag said:

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I support Bernie, but a 3rd party run would make Trump much more likely to win. I'm hoping for party unity with major concessions to Sanders platform. Best cast: Bernie for Veep.

Australians apparently can't sink...

fuzzyundies says...

Definitely don't try this at home. He has a snorkel so his engine won't ingest water and hydrolock, cracking the cylinders and ruining the engine. A normal car would be done in that much water. Some sports cars with a low cold air intake pipe can't even drive through puddles.

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Whole Foods Anti-gay Slur

newtboy says...

OK, here's a much better shot of the icing, showing that it's both a different size piping and slightly different color, and also video proof that the upc label is in a different place from when he purchased it...so yes, fraud, lies, and debunked are all appropriate, as is a title change to reflect the lie that this was....like 'whole foods anti-gay slur hoax' or something

Flyboard® Air Test 1

iaui says...

Looks like it might be a small jet engine. I'm guessing the backpack might hold the fuel. It looks like there's some sort of external hose connected to his leg (but not touching his leg.) Perhaps a fuel feed pipe?



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