You're kidding right?

It "got out of hand"? By your logic, paedo's are just giving kids hugs and it "get's out of hand".

It's would be so easy to write you off as a troll, but you honestly believe the bullshit you peddle, don't you? You poor sad fuck.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
so who is this old paedo?
Paedo? He clearly hates those children.

this was a children's show in the 1980s on a children's network called Nickelodeon. The show consisted of about 4 or 5 scientific "experiments" that Mr. Wizard (Don Herbert) introduced to one of these kids each week.
>> ^EvilDeathBee:

so who is this old paedo?

so who is this old paedo?

Hahahaha When they asked us to guess which guy was the paedo I thought to myself, ok I'm looking for the one with the moustache.

>> ^qfan:

My point was that his condescending nature of religion makes him look like a hypocrite when he refers to a moral code, making him as "preachy" as those he slanders on a regular basis. It's not consistent.
Then he needs to define where this morality comes from. But that's another topic altogether.
>> ^Asmo:
>> ^qfan:
"You know what? Somebody has to bring up that there is a moral dimension to this." BM
What do you know? Someone who just plugged their staunchly anti-religious documentary, preaching about morals.

Morality does not require religion... Paedo priests are a classic example...
As for Bill, he even says outloud why PIPA/SOPA are useless... "Every time we took one of them down, another would pop up". So basically they can't stop them popping up but they (not Maher) were willing to take the risk of impinging on legitimate sites on an impossible mission.
He may be playing the devil's adovcate but he sort undermines any position he had there. He doesn't have figures on piracy vs purchase, he doesn't have figures on how many pirated and then purchased, he doesn't know if his movie was promoted to greater success due to personal piracy.
I wholeheartedly agree with shutting down piracy for profit, but personal privay is kinda like taping the radio, government's can't stop it and they shouldn't bother because it'll cost them more in the long run, and the media companies aren't picking up the tab...



I "think" he has addressed that, but I can't remember specifically where. I think more of his criticism of religion is centered on believing in magical entities despite a lack of evidence and how that opens people up to manipulation by others.

I wouldn't say it makes him a hypocrite on the subject of morality, but he certainly does have his own unsupported beliefs (such as his anti-vaccine stance... not sure if he changed it).

He also seems to be supporting SOPA with the mindset of "it's aimed at a real problem that affects me, so it sounds like something worth supporting". Again, he's believing in something despite not really understanding it, so you can make somewhat of a case for hypocrisy on those grounds.

My point was that his condescending nature of religion makes him look like a hypocrite when he refers to a moral code, making him as "preachy" as those he slanders on a regular basis. It's not consistent.

Then he needs to define where this morality comes from. But that's another topic altogether.

>> ^Asmo:

>> ^qfan:
"You know what? Somebody has to bring up that there is a moral dimension to this." BM
What do you know? Someone who just plugged their staunchly anti-religious documentary, preaching about morals.

Morality does not require religion... Paedo priests are a classic example...
As for Bill, he even says outloud why PIPA/SOPA are useless... "Every time we took one of them down, another would pop up". So basically they can't stop them popping up but they (not Maher) were willing to take the risk of impinging on legitimate sites on an impossible mission.
He may be playing the devil's adovcate but he sort undermines any position he had there. He doesn't have figures on piracy vs purchase, he doesn't have figures on how many pirated and then purchased, he doesn't know if his movie was promoted to greater success due to personal piracy.
I wholeheartedly agree with shutting down piracy for profit, but personal privay is kinda like taping the radio, government's can't stop it and they shouldn't bother because it'll cost them more in the long run, and the media companies aren't picking up the tab...

>> ^qfan:

"You know what? Somebody has to bring up that there is a moral dimension to this." BM
What do you know? Someone who just plugged their staunchly anti-religious documentary, preaching about morals.


Morality does not require religion... Paedo priests are a classic example...

As for Bill, he even says outloud why PIPA/SOPA are useless... "Every time we took one of them down, another would pop up". So basically they can't stop them popping up but they (not Maher) were willing to take the risk of impinging on legitimate sites on an impossible mission.

He may be playing the devil's adovcate but he sort undermines any position he had there. He doesn't have figures on piracy vs purchase, he doesn't have figures on how many pirated and then purchased, he doesn't know if his movie was promoted to greater success due to personal piracy.

I wholeheartedly agree with shutting down piracy for profit, but personal privay is kinda like taping the radio, government's can't stop it and they shouldn't bother because it'll cost them more in the long run, and the media companies aren't picking up the tab...

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On topic, big thumbs up for the very tolerant woman in the video. I disagree with her religion but she has my utmost respect.

re: the debate regarding gay 'choice vs genetics' and how it pertains to marriage, who fucking cares? This is one big old red herring, okaying discrimination because a person chooses not to adhere to a societal norm rather than being forced to by genetic circumstance. We're not talking an involuntary relationship (ie. paedo/bestiality marriages) which in my mind are the only precluders. You can't marry a person if a) it's against their will or b) they are not capable of making the decision to accept. If a bisexual chooses to marry the same sex, the principle is the same, good luck to em. Two fellow citizens who should have the same rights as any other have their rights removed because they don't conform to what society thinks.

>> ^gwiz665:

Alright, that's your prerogative and probably the best way to go forward. Though, I hope it's just the one post you're not commenting on anymore though and not altogether.


Just that vid of course. Like i said, i reached that point where i realised that there's no reasoning with him - everyone over 30 is a paedo, everyone under 30 is a child. It's people like him who end up spraying "pervert" on a paediatrician's car.

I love how you can get a bunch of humans to give money to enter into a social arena, and then they all proceed to make it worse for each other by hurling insults around without consideration.

If you appeal to logic or reason, you're whining. If you're talking to someone in a normal way, this isn't a chat room stfu and play. If you're playing and not talking, you're an elitist fag. If you're annoyed about something, you're emo/raging. If you talk too much, you're a spammer.

Waitwait, i've got more! If you're nice to kids you hear on voice comms, you're a paedo. If you express amazement; "wtf?!" then what's the matter, UMAD LOL? If you're good at anything, you're a hacker. If you're under 19, you're a cs kiddie. If you don't know exactly what to do, you're a fucking newb. And when you get tired of all that shit and you leave - it's a ragequit.

Hey i like this!

>> ^gwiz665:
Let us first be certain that he's guilty - that's what the justice system is about. If this is a false accusation - which I doubt it is - then his life is basically ruined because of this video.
That said, assuming he did do this, what the FUCK!? Either that is a very disturbed boy or, well, that's the only explanation I can think of. If he goes to jail, he will be killed in there, I'm certain of it. Even murderers have a certain code and this breaks every possible code there is. Hell, I would imagine "regular" paedos would be outraged by this.
For want of a bird
The sky was lost
For want of a nail
A shoe was lost
For want of a life
A life was lost
For want of a toy
A child was lost


For want of a bullet
The taxpayers money was lost.

Let us first be certain that he's guilty - that's what the justice system is about. If this is a false accusation - which I doubt it is - then his life is basically ruined because of this video.

That said, assuming he did do this, what the FUCK!? Either that is a very disturbed boy or, well, that's the only explanation I can think of. If he goes to jail, he will be killed in there, I'm certain of it. Even murderers have a certain code and this breaks every possible code there is. Hell, I would imagine "regular" paedos would be outraged by this.

For want of a bird
The sky was lost
For want of a nail
A shoe was lost
For want of a life
A life was lost
For want of a toy
A child was lost

>> ^HenningKO:
What's the joke?
I'd like to understand. I'm withholding my vote.
Also, I personally don't see the harm if paedos are getting off to this.
At least they're not out touching kids IRL, right? Is that naive?


Hmm yeah, but what about the ones who are watching this AND doing it in real life. I don't think this is going to be a deterrent..