>> ^zaust:

>> ^UsesProzac:
Jealous? If you want to last four minutes yourself--or even longer!, try thinking about baseball.
>> ^direpickle:
Seriously? Four minutes?


Or maybe have a weird spiky penis which means the girl can't run away
That sounds like a real dire pickle.

>> ^UsesProzac:

Jealous? If you want to last four minutes yourself--or even longer!, try thinking about baseball.
>> ^direpickle:
Seriously? Four minutes?



Or maybe have a weird spiky penis which means the girl can't run away

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>> ^UsesProzac:

Jealous? If you want to last four minutes yourself--or even longer!, try thinking about baseball.
>> ^direpickle:
Seriously? Four minutes?



I knew I was setting that joke up. You're welcome.

Jealous? If you want to last four minutes yourself--or even longer!, try thinking about baseball.

>> ^direpickle:

Seriously? Four minutes?

>> ^Trancecoach:

Cenk's impersonation of the man's accent in this clip seems a bit racist...


Cenk's been known to be a bit of a racist.

@bcglorf, I've skimmed through this conversation, and I think that this is the most succinct expression of your position on global warming:
>> ^bcglorf:

Rapidly cutting CO2 emissions before we have the replacement technology in place would be costly, not just financially but world history shows big financial impacts generally spill over into violent impacts. Battery technology is getting very close to making electric cars that are superior in every way to their gas guzzling brethren. I truly do believe that the enormous CO2 contribution made by burning gasoline is rapidly on it's way out for purely economic rather than environmental reasons. Another reason I don't feel the need for panic.
As I stated above, I am NOT being a skeptic in declaring that H2O dominates the greenhouse effect. It is the uncontested scientific fact.
I am NOT being a skeptic in declaring that H2O's role in climate models and forcing/feedbacks is very poorly understood. It is an uncontested scientific fact, some models even disagree on whether to assign it as a positive or negative feedback.
Think about those two for a good long while before thinking everything Al Gore said should trump peer reviewed science.


I think John Cole still has the perfect description of the conservative/denier shtick on global warming:

You know the drill: global warming isn’t happening, if it is happening then it’s not caused by human behavior, if it is caused by human behavior then we can’t do anything about it, if it is caused by human behavior and we can do something about it, then that something is too expensive, if it is caused by human behavior and we can do something about it that is not too expensive, then that something is not what Democrats are proposing. And Al Gore is fat, he flies too much, look at his electricity bill, and sometimes when he goes somewhere it snows there, which is very ironic.

Now, to your credit, you have executed this script in a more thoughtful, reasoned, honestly skeptical way than most do, but ultimately you're following it to a tee. Hell, you even made a swipe at Al Gore along the way.

I think this comment of criticalthud's is pretty much speaking to why I posted the video in the first place:
>> ^criticalthud:

and I would add:
we have a psychological issue at hand.
the human species thinks it's entitled, and it's OUR planet. We think we're special.
This kind of psychological issue hides reality from us.
We have shown ourselves to be very poor stewards of the planet. How many species have we wiped out? How else have we affected our environment? What sort of poisons have we created, what scale of trash heap? Mindlessly fattening ourselves.
This makes me think it is quite likely that we are the frogs in the slowly boiling water.
So, we can argue about this and that, and whether our governments should act. But in actuality, it is up to each and every one of us to stop being energy and consumer gluttons, feasting during the oil orgy.


Human psychology isn't wired properly for dealing with things like climate change. We have trouble with making connections between our actions in the here and now, and consequences to people elsewhere in space, and in time. We're also weird about our assessment of risk. Some people are deathly afraid of flying, but have no problem driving around in a car, even though driving a car is vastly more likely to result in your death than flying on a plane.

The science isn't certain on exactly what's happening, but then science isn't certain about anything. Everything has a fucking error bar on it. We won't be certain it's gonna kill the human race until the human race dies. We won't know it's not going to be a big problem until it's already stopped...and it's showing no signs of stopping on its own.

Environmentalism at its most basic level is about trying to lessen the impact humanity is having on the natural systems we rely on for the basic necessities of life. It's about not felling forests, not poisoning our water, not blighting our soil, and in this case, it's about trying to get people to stop giving a big fucking shove to the equilibrium of our atmosphere when we don't know exactly how it works (and what we do know suggests doing that could possibly be very bad for us).

The basic disagreement here is about what our default position should be in the absence of certainty. Mine is that we should be humble, and curtail our CO2 emissions rather severely. Yours seems to be that as long as the science isn't yet 100% definite, we should just ignore the problem and just wait until scarcity of coal and oil pushes us off them.

and I would add:
we have a psychological issue at hand.
the human species thinks it's entitled, and it's OUR planet. We think we're special.

This kind of psychological issue hides reality from us.

We have shown ourselves to be very poor stewards of the planet. How many species have we wiped out? How else have we affected our environment? What sort of poisons have we created, what scale of trash heap? Mindlessly fattening ourselves.

This makes me think it is quite likely that we are the frogs in the slowly boiling water.

So, we can argue about this and that, and whether our governments should act. But in actuality, it is up to each and every one of us to stop being energy and consumer gluttons, feasting during the oil orgy.

>> ^grinter:

I'm not sure what to think about RT, but I'm pretty sure that a CNN anchor wouldn't have understood the term "donkey punch".


I'm pretty sure they all practice them at their cocaine fueled corporate orgies.

something of a jack of all trades.
ex-lawyer, some gov. now i play music and work with spinal issues.
i try often to look at the big picture - mostly from the viewpoint of us being primates in the middle of an energy orgy, and the mass psychology of it all. I find people like yourself to be in the vast minority - both curious and rational. while i find society (especially american) to most often inspire the opposite.
I like this site tho, typically really good minds here. i learn a lot.
cheers!

In reply to this comment by Diogenes:
thanks back at ya =)

i'm a china analyst serving overseas for the state dept

and you?

In reply to this comment by criticalthud:
thanks. i like your style and your depth of inquiry/understanding.

>> ^shagen454:

That is an interesting piece of info I did not know about. I never really understood why they went with Lynch for Dune, either. Not that that was a bad idea, I know a lot of people complain about Lynch's adaptation but I liked it a lot. I bet Jodorowsky's version would have been absolutely insane and even less on point with the Dune novel. I can only imagine all of the shit Jodorowsky could shove into that.
wiki: "he planned to cast the surrealist artist Salvador Dali as the Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV, who requested a fee of $100,000 per hour. He also planned to cast Orson Welles as the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, who only agreed when Jodorowsky offered to get his favourite gourmet chef to prepare his meals for him throughout the filming.[23] The book's protagonist, Paul Atreides, was to be played by Jodorowsky's own son, Brontis Jodorowsky. The music would be composed by Pink Floyd, Magma, Henry Cow and Karlheinz Stockhausen"
Damn, man has some fine taste in music. And yep, looks like it would have been insane.
>> ^poolcleaner:
>> EDIT: oh yeah, it's all there on IMDB but I won't spoil it for anyone.

That's because Dan O'Bannon recruited Giger for the alien creature design after working with him on Jodorowsky's failed attempt to make Dune.



Weird times. The days of hiring directors like Lynch to take over a science fiction epic are over. It didn't work and it's not what people want to see.

If Jodorowsky had made Dune, it would have given a handful of people hard ons and Rocky Horror would have fallen to the way side as the midnight movie standard. All in all, I think there'd be less trannys and Hedwig and the Angry Inch would never have been made.

Frank Herbert, Dan O'Bannon, Jodorowsky, Dali, Welles, and Pink Floyd all under one roof? The entire movie would have been one big water of life spice orgy. Pregnant women viewing the movie would've given birth to abominations possessed by Orson Welles.

I'll bet no one feels left out in an orgy with her around.

>> ^spoco2:

You justify your downloading your way, I do it mine. Let's leave it at that


See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. What's the point of having a conversation if you only want to talk to people who agree with you?

It seems to me that you're just drawing the conclusions from what I say that make you feel better about your behavior. Maybe "an orgy of self congratulation" would've been a better metaphor.

It's important to point out here too, that the money issue was just one of many that might affect my decision. A decision which by the way, was never actually made. All I said was that I didn't think that I would have a problem stealing from the guy. And I've already said twice now that I probably wouldn't download it. But since the first thing you harped on didn't work out for you, you'll just move on to the next single issue that you can label as some popular opinion. There are countless issues to bring up about the subject, and I brought up at least a few. But I never said anything like: "I will download this because of this".

And speaking of the money thing, I'm kind of wondering if five dollars is really that cheap. Sure, it's not a lot of money, but I can buy most of Louis C.K.'s DVDs for around fifteen bucks. Let's compare:

For fifteen dollars, I can get a physical copy of something. I can loan it to a friend or put it in a box, unwrapped for years and who knows, it might even be worth more sometime in the future. And even if it's not, I can still sell it if I get tired of it and maybe take a dollar or two off of the next DVD I buy. Shit, I can trade for a sandwich maybe!

I can't loan the digital copy to a friend and it's certainly not going to increase in value(it wouldn't matter anyway, because I can't sell it or trade it). And if anything happens and my computer crashes, the only way I could've prevented it's loss is by... making a digital copy. See the irony there?

Not to mention, a DVD involves hundreds if not thousands of people to make. All the people who produce the raw materials, the marketers, the people who manufacture the final product, the people who ship the final product and let's not forget the people who sell it. All those people take a bite of a measly fifteen bucks. To me, when you compare the two, the guy who sells a digital copy for five bucks and only has to pay the production crew(which the DVD people have to pay as well) and what? a few web techs? That guy's making out like a bandit if you ask me.

I know, maybe I don't make that strong of a case. But at least I know how to have a fucking conversation.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'teenage, andy richter, cops, sex, wife, positions, orgy, rape' to 'teenage, andy richter, cops, sex, wife, positions, orgy, rape, midnight show' - edited by chilaxe

While watching I couldn't help but think about how the recording and editing of this was probably all digital.

I grew up early enough that we still had a darkroom in my school. Between the orgies, we developed film using chemicals and light. There's something very gratifying about watching a picture develop in a chem bath. Much, I imagine, like the feeling of making a sturdy pair of frames.