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Only 6% of Scientists are Republicans, Says Pew Poll

jerryku says...

I'm not surprised that so few are Republican (Einstein was a Communist, and many of Oppenheimer's relatives were, too), but I wonder how many today are Libertarian-types, since so many identify as independents?

And how many are pro-democracy? I would argue that science and democracy don't really work together well. For one thing, scientists are very smart, while the majority of the human race is probably embarrassingly foolish in their eyes. So are scientists (elite eggheads) really in favor of having the unwashed masses rule the world? I gotta wonder.

A scientist libertarian party guy makes sense to me though. Free market stuff is like a form of social darwinism. Survival of the fittest. Evolution. Science. Brutal, cold, efficient, and without any silly Bible or Quran to teach hippie whatever egalitarian "love your neighbor" principles that are in there.

A scientist fascist makes sense to me, too.

I guess a scientist Communist (which was VERY popular in the past) actually makes the least amount of sense to me. The only part that makes sense is the tenet of Communism that opposes faith in God. If high #s of scientists are not religious, then I can see the appeal of Communism. But all the other aspects of Communism, which is really based on the idea of majority rule ("The People!"), seems to go against what scientists would favor. Then again, I guess convincing the world that there was no afterlife after a nuclear world-destroying war.. would be the most important thing to do for the time being. Kinda like an Ozzymandias from The Watchmen type thing.

Man Man - Rabbit Habits

MrFisk says...

Don’t you dare say that you weren’t warned
that the end was coming soon.
And your eyes shined like Oppenheimer
as he talks about the moon.

And he don’t even taste the food he eats anymore.
And there’s a space in place of where his heart was before.
And he don’t even taste the food he eats anymore.
And she don’t wanna dine alone
And he don’t wanna die alone.
And she wants to live to eat.

Don’t you dare say that you weren’t warned
that the end was coming soon.
And your eyes shined Enola Gay-like
as you see the light of day.

And he don’t even taste the food he eats anymore.
And there’s a space in place of where his heart was before.
And he don’t even taste the food he eats anymore.
And he don’t wanna dine alone
And she don’t wanna die alone.
And he wants to eat to live.

You’re an elegant little pelican.
And all your sorrows are stacked
amongst your nest of friends.

And over time, defined by how you carry on.
And all of the tore songs you keep inside.
And all of the songs that hang in the night
even after you’re gone.

Oppenheimer's Thoughts After Destroying The Sift Database

Oppenheimer's Thoughts After Destroying The Sift Database

Oppenheimer's Thoughts After Destroying The Sift Database

campionidelmondo (Member Profile)

Rejecting the Label 'Atheist'

Inventions of War: The History of the Machine gun

schmawy says...

I love it when people try to save lives by creating more horrific weapons.

Gatling and Nobel sitting in a tree,
K-I-L-L-I-N-G
First comes love,
Then comes marriage,
Then comes Oppenheimer in a baby carriage.

E_Nygma (Member Profile)

Fedquip says...

yeah CC embeds are frowned about, but its the best we got, probably better then nothing, nobody likes a dead video, us canucks will have to survive.

In reply to this comment by E_Nygma:
thanks for the search help. i did find it, but i know comedy central embeds are a little frowned on since they're not viewable outside the US. also, oppenheimer's review of the bomb is now the number one video on DPFA

In reply to this comment by Fedquip:
she's *dead

However I'm happy to report it is the highest rated video of all time in the DPFA Channel.

You should be able to replace it with a video from here.

Fedquip (Member Profile)

Robert Oppenheimer's thoughts after first atomic explosion

guessandcheck says...

This video is strangely moving. You can tell that Oppenheimer's mind was probably never at ease again. There's something so painful in his expression that I've decided to make a new playlist: The Human Condition

Also, for a little more insight, although possibly slightly fictionalized:

Fat Man and Little Boy - Interesting movie about the scientists from Los Alamos. Starring Paul Newman, John Cussak, and Laura Dern

Robert Oppenheimer's thoughts after first atomic explosion

Robert Oppenheimer's thoughts after first atomic explosion

How Chimp Chromosome #13 Proves Evolution

BicycleRepairMan says...

I don't subscribe to Evolution, and I don't agree with Intelligent Design. Because we just don't know enough. And really it doesn't matter. Oh I'll have people disagree with that I'm sure, but honestly it's a bit to ridiculous to say: "This is how it all happened!" Because if history is ANY guide at all it will prove to us that we need to go back to the drawing board.

Science is a cumulative method, not a dogma, I know its been said over and over, but read it again because its important, yes, historically we have been lots of wrong, and indeed, there is much we do not, and cannot know, but there is actually something to the word cumulative, it means that as we build on what we have, we get better. Please try to understand the word "Theory" as what it means in the scientific sense and not the common language sense. Secondly, Yes we have been wrong before, no question, but this has its limits, there are some things that just are not going to fundamentally change, because the predictions and observations are just too many, for too long to make any kind of sense without a given theory.

Evolution is a fact. this is not going to change, not in a million years, not ever, how can I be so cock-sure? because of evidence, overwhelming amounts of it, every skeleton, fossil ever dug up, every dna test ever taken , daily use of the theory in the areas of medicine,biology and even geology, things that wouldnt make sense without evolution, science that can point to DIRECT benefits from using evolution actively, The applications are seemingly endless.

Scientific theory is not guesswork, nothing demonstrates this louder than Oppenheimers application of Einsteins gues... uh, I mean, theories

You cant make bigger bombs from an understanding of evolution(to my knowledge) so we dont have the same kind of explosive application to show to in biology, but as I said, its still in daily use in medicine, for instance.

Please read an entire book on evolution, I can guarantee its gonna be worth it, Dawkins is an obvious starting point, I recommend "The selfish Gene, Blind watchmaker or Climbing mount improbable, but "The Ancestor's Tale" is even better, but it ticks in at 650 pages, so you'd might want to start with a smaller warm-up After reading TSG (and again after Ancestor's Tale!), it was like I had seen the world anew, every ant on the floor, every nature show, and hell, just looking at PEOPLE, it all shines in a different light..

Waiting For The Great Leap Forward - Billy Bragg

lisacat says...

Here's the official lyrics, but in that great folk tradition, they've been updated and changed to fit the times:

It may have been Camelot for Jack and Jacqueline
But on the Che Guevara highway filling up with gasoline
Fidel Castro's brother spies a rich lady who's crying
Over luxury's disappointment
So he walks over and he's trying
To sympathise with her but he thinks that he should warn her
That the Third World is just around the corner

In the Soviet Union a scientist is blinded
By the resumption of nuclear testing and he is reminded
That Dr Robert Oppenheimer's optimism fell
At the first hurdle

In the Cheese Pavilion and the only noise I hear
Is the sound of someone stacking chairs
And mopping up spilt beer
And someone asking questions and basking in the light
Of the fifteen fame filled minutes of the fanzine writer

Mixing Pop and Politics he asks me what the use is
I offer him embarrassment and my usual excuses
While looking down the corridor
Out to where the van is waiting
I'm looking for the Great Leap Forwards

Jumble sales are organised and pamphlets have been posted
Even after closing time there's still parties to be hosted
You can be active with the activists
Or sleep in with the sleepers
While you're waiting for the Great Leap Forwards

One leap forward, two leaps back
Will politics get me the sack?

here comes the future and you can't run from it
If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it

It's a mighty long way down rock 'n roll
From Top of the Pops to drawing the dole

If no one out there understands
Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman

In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room

So join the struggle while you may
The Revolution is just a T-shirt away
Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards



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